Re: Using Thunderbird filters

Antony Stone

Please could you explain, in clear detailed steps, exactly how your filtering
rule for the problematic list is created, with sufficient information that we
could recreate it in exactly the same form on our own machines?

I think both Gene and I are still unclear about:

1. exactly what your filtering rule looks like

2. why you believe this rule should match the emails from that list

3. why it is not matching some emails from that list

I can only say that without an example of an email which matches and an exampe
of email which doesn't, we don't really have much information to go on to help
you solve this problem.



On Friday 27 October 2017 at 01:41:55, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Gene,

I think people don't use multiple settings when creating message rules.
Just now I tried the to or cc field and that didn'teven work.


On 10/26/2017 3:20 AM, Gene wrote:
I should make a possible correction. I said you need a different rule
for every list. I don't know if that is true. I don't know if you can
put multiple things for a rule to look for such as the names of more
than one list. I believe I've only heard of people using one rule for
one list and another rule for another list. If there is a setting
that will allow you to put multiple items in one rule, such as I gave
an example of before, you may not be doing it correctly or you may be
using the wrong setting. Others may be able to explain how to do this,
or you may just want to create one rule for each list. It might be
more work but since you have written a rule that works on some
messages, you know that the rule is working to an extent. So you may
be able to use that suggestion to make a rule, one for each list, that
I said before that working with someone in real time would be a good
idea. You say you go through all the steps. That doesn't mean you do
or do correctly. It means you think you go through all the steps. No
one can be sure what to tell you without every step being listed in a
message, every field you fill out or check and uncheck, every combo
box you work with, how and what you set it to, etc. That is why I say
you should work with someone in real time. So you can make a rule and
they can hear every step you do. Either that or record yourself
making a rule and sending the recording to the list. But without
those trying to help knowing every step, no one can know or make a
properly informed guess about what you are doing incorrectly.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Rosemarie Chavarria <mailto:knitqueen2007@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, October 26, 2017 12:17 AM
*To:* <>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Using Thunderbird filters

Hi, Ron,

I did all those steps and I still can't get messages moved to their
proper folders. I've hit enter on all the folders but I'm still having
some messages from other lists go to my inbox instead of their proper
folders. Why isn't this working for me? In outlook, you just hit the
context key and arrow down to "always move messages from" and then the
name of the messages.


On 10/25/2017 7:49 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

Assuming that you have attempted to create the filters by clicking
tools/filters/new, be advised that the select a folder aspect is a
bit kinky with screen readers. You must treat that list box like a
combo box using alt + down arrow to open the folder list and once
selecting the right folder to filter messages into, press either
enter or alt + up arrow to close the box and select the folder.

Everyone who is new to Thunderbird (including me) seems to run across
this and it is temporarily confusing until you figure out what is
going on.

On 10/25/2017 7:25 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I tried but it didn't work. I selected the rule and tabbed to the
run now button and hit enter but it didn't work. This isn't working

On 10/25/2017 4:20 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

I'll give it another shot.

On 10/25/2017 4:17 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:
HI, Rosemary

Under the Tool in the main menu select Message Filters. Then, you
will prompted of the list of filtered folders you've created. You
need to double check and uncheck the Manual Run.

Robert Mendoza

On 10/26/2017 7:09 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, Robert,

I already did all that. Some other messages from the other lists
are still going into the inbox. I don't know what else to do.


On 10/25/2017 4:07 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:
subject line is intended to change to avoid confusion of the
thread. About your concern for filtering particular message into
your inbox in Thunderbird. you have to make sure that your focus
is located to the message that is not open yet, then tab several
times till the focus is directed in the recipient column. Right
click then select Create Filter From. The rest of the filters
process is the same as mentioned below by John. Also, make sure
you uncheck the filter by manually so that it will run
automatically into your corresponding filtered of your choice.

Robert Mendoza

On 10/26/2017 6:36 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, John,

Let's say you want to run a filter on a message that comes into
the inbox. I've pretty muchcreated the filters but there are
messages till coming into the inbox from other lists. How do
you run a filter on a message?



On 10/25/2017 3:03 PM, John Isige wrote:
1. Go to the tools menu, pick message filters.

2. Tab to the new button.

3. Fill in whatever rules you want, e.g. from in the combo
box, tell it to match nvda.

4. For the next two combo boxes, it will probably be easiest
to hit alt-down arrow and expand them. Just pick whatever you
like, I move mine to a folder called nvda that I made.

5. To make a folder, just pick folder from the new menu in the
file menu, do that before you do a filter if you want to move
stuff, because the folder has to exist for you to pick it. If
you want the folder in the main account, i.e. another folder
like inbox, before you make the folder, highlight your account
name with the arrows. If you want everything under your inbox,
so you have to hit right arrow to expand folders, highlight
your inbox. The difference is that if you highlight the
account, you can down arrow, so you'll get inbox, your folder,
sent, trash, whatever. If you do it highlighting the inbox,
inbox usually starts collapsed and you have to hit right arrow
to expand it, then you hit down arrow to get to those folders,
you'll go through whatever you made, then you'll get back to
sent, trash, whatever.

If that's confusing somehow, feel free to ask questions.

On 10/25/2017 13:26, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, John,

How do you create filters in thunderbird or do you just
delete them after reading or replying to them? Outlook is ok
but It's a bit clunky.


On 10/25/2017 10:02 AM, John Isige wrote:
Microsoft's various mail programs have always been weird
though. I used to use Outlook, the one that came in Office.
Then I had to upgrade or migrate machines or whatever. So I
exported mail and everything just like you're supposed to.
Got everything installed, imported into the new Outlook.
Suddenly none of my filtering rules to send messages to
specific folders would work. So I literally deleted them all
and recreated them from scratch, and they still wouldn't
work. That's when I switched to Thunderbird and I've been
using it ever since.
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