No, before (in 2016.4) NVDA would not keep changing modes on me
just because it got to an edit box if I had specifically set it to
browse mode. Now, it doesn't care if I set it to browse mode or
not, it still switches into edit mode when it encounters an edit
field, and let me tell you, it's extremely frustrating if I'm
trying to get past something like a login form, especially on
sites like goodreads.com or similar sites, because there's
something like 12 edit boxes before you get to the end of the page
where the real login button is if you're wanting to use another
service to do the logging in and not log in directly with the
site. This kind of thing did not happen when I was using 2016.4,
but now it does with 2017.3, and it's actually the only thing I
have problems with on NVDA, without this issue, NVDA works
perfectly for me using chrome.
Although, I must correct my previous statement that it happens
100 percent of the time, it's more like 95 percent of the time, I
did find one or two sites where it doesn't do this, but the large
majority of sites do exhibit this behavior, and turning off cursor
following is not an option I like to use, because sometimes
routing cursors doesn't work properly, and there's no other way to
get the system cursor where I need it to be.
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On 11/3/2017 2:45 PM, Gene wrote:
That isn't what I described. What I said is that if you
manually turn forms mode on, it will stay on. You are
discussing behavior in browse mode. If you turn browse mode on,
then the behavior you describe will occur unless you set NVDA
not to change to forms mode automatically. It doesn't matter if
you turn browse mode on manually or if it is on because it is on
when you start browsing, the behavior doesn't change.
Controling this behavior is available in the Browse Mode
settings. I believe the check box you uncheck is Automatic
focus mode for focus changes. There is another check box,
Automatic focus mode for caret movement, which I also have
unchecked. I don't remember what it does but others will
probably explain it.
Gene
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It happens with every single web site I encounter that requires
input in multiple fields. I can set NVDA to browse mode (that's
the default right?) then every time I encounter an edit field,
NVDA automatically switches to edit mode regardless of whether
I've previously told it to be in browse mode or not. It happens
100 percent of the time on each and every web site I encounter
edit fields on, so it is definitely not a once in a while
thing. Find yourself any web site that requires logins, or
perhaps one with a signup form, and the behavior is always
exactly the same, whether I've set it specifically to browse
mode or not.
On 11/3/2017 12:43 AM, Quentin
Christensen wrote:
Hi,
Re the inconsistent behaviour in Chrome, can you give
some steps to reproduce please?
Eg:
2. Press ...
3. Press ...
Re the issue of playing certain browser based games, are
they self voicing? IE: Does NVDA speak useful information
while using them? If you don't have to have NVDA, then you
could put NVDA in sleep mode with NVDA+shift+s. Note that
will put NVDA to sleep while the current application is
active. EG if you are using Chrome, them NVDA will wake up
when you go to another application (or the alt+tab window),
but as long as you are in a Chrome window, NVDA will be
"asleep".
Regards
Quentin.
