Re: firefox is now back



And just like that I am back to 57 for good this time.

Today I decided to well I decided to do a junk clean with disk cleaner.

Lets say, it hosed my sounds extention and I had to reset all of everything.

And I decided that well I wasn't bad off, noscript should be out at the end of the week and as long as I can access the options screen right in firefox I will do it.

I can't read the security dialogs in chrome so all my bluster had me a bit more bad off.

I would like the ability to edit and interact with form fields in firefox addon options.

I'd also like to have my navigation sound back and to know where addon data is saved so maybe I can find and replace the vary low download sound for sound download notifier I have.

I however do have sound notifier back and to be honest firefox 57 is a lot faster loading.

I'll keep the legacy addons installed though just in case I need to downgrade to 56.x.

I do hope that the form fields in addons options can be interacted with its just about the only thing thats wrong, at least with the 64 bit version of this program.

And here I was switching to chrome.

Firefox still shows the right dialogs and not unknowns, chrome still has issues.

I access things like resilio, and other ip based sites daily, and thats where I run into a problem.

On 15/11/2017 10:30 a.m., Steve Nutt wrote:

Chromebooks are much better for accessibility now.

All the best


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Subject: Re: [nvda] firefox is now chrome

Chromevox has a long history, back when Chrome book computers first started, they accessed all their aps through the web interface of Chrome browser. ie it was not running windows. They built in a rudamentary screenreader to help people its always been very basic and I have never bothered with it as it was really only relevant in the above context as soon Chrome implimented apis for its windows version which allowed other screenreaders to be used.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 6:39 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] firefox is now chrome

Its a screen reader its more basic than nvda it uses sapi and google tts.

On 14/11/2017 7:35 p.m., zahra wrote:
could you please someone explane for me in details that whats the
i did not understand whats it.
is it a screen reader which works just in chrome?
if so, which synthesizer does it have?
God bless you all.

On 11/14/17, Shaun Everiss <> wrote:
The only issue I did have was connecting to my bt sync server, and my
router in fact any device with an ip address.

I got a lot of unknowns, I assume it was a security dialog, I had to go
to the address bar, shift tab once, hit the information button then
allow this site always then hit reload, then it let it go through.

I do wish that security dialogs and extention add dialogs got read
chrome dropps into a chrome legacy window instead of a document window
and screen readers can't read legacy windows so well.

On 14/11/2017 11:00 a.m., Sally Kiebdaj wrote:
Hello Mary,

Chrome has an extension called Chromevox which acts as a screen
reader. NVDA also works with Chrome, though.

Warm regards,


On 11/13/2017 4:47 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
So does chrome have a reader at on, rather like what you get with
Safari either on a Mac or on the phone? The android version of chrome
doesn’t have that, and it’s a huge disadvantage in my opinion. I’m
guessing that the desktop version either has it built in or at least
has an ad on.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 13, 2017, at 1:03 PM, Shaun Everiss <>


Ok guys decided to cut my losses and switched to chrome.

What an experience change.

Its true I need to do a bit more configging but just about every
file just saves now.

And access wize there are accessibility addons.

For me noscript doesn't come but the rest.

First https everywhere, privacy badger and ublock origin exist thats

I use download notifier for sounds, and google sound effects tweaked
so it doesn't make sounds for everything I do key typing scroling
down pages, etc.

However its better than the crappy addon I have on firefox.

Its got accessibility features and its fully configurable, maybe ms
should take a leaf out of google's book for their stuff because
headings for everything.

The only issues I have is when removing addon extentions I have to
hit enter twice as there is a lot of unknown and the same with
adding extentions tab once and hit enter.

I also don't care for the top down approach of the google app store.

However I am fully setup and while it could be better, I do believe
that firefox as it stands is history with me.

Noscript, well its not really important right now, everything works
as needed.

I do feel sad leaving firefox though.

On 14/11/2017 8:51 a.m., Gene wrote:
Why do some people care so much about browser sounds? When a page
has finished opening, you'll know it because the screen-reader
automatically starts to read it. When a page doesn't load for some
reason, a lot of the time there is an error message. When you
download a file, you can easily check the estimated time remaining
for the download. I understand the desire to hear a sound when a
download finishes because that will tell you, without you having to
check or without perhaps getting busy with something else and
forgetting to check in a timely manner. But how much of the
concern with sounds is just habit? Maybe people would be surprised
if they didn't use browser sounds for three days as a trial, how
quickly almost all of the sounds fade into insignificance. Even
the download finished sound may decrease significantly in
----- Original Message -----

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 1:28 PM
Subject: [nvda] firefox sort of fixed


Ok, got an addon called download sound this works for downloads,
sadly I
don't get when sites open like navigation sounds, but if anything
the download sound is the important event sound is a bit loud


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