Re: NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when there’s a problem with shut down

Dave Grossoehme

Good Afternoon:  Does this happen if you minimum the windows when you aren't using the open windows with more than 2?

Insider Dave

On 11/13/2017 10:48 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Thats only a problem if you constantly handle more than 2 windows.

Its probably my dos days but I never handle more than 1 window weather it be background or not at any moment.

I get distracted if I have more than 1 screen up at a time including background programs in fact I only have open the things I need unless I have finnished for the day and don't need them.

That includes but is not limited to, music, resilio services, dropbox, firefox, thunderbird and skype.

The only time that works is if 1 window is doing 1 task like downloads.

On 13/11/2017 10:22 p.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I do think, myself that windows 7 is annoying enough and why do these screens tend to hide behind others?
I feel like some kind of kinter garden child with it.
Of course if you are in a high risk scenario then yes, but if you are careful, I'm not convinced its going to save you as its the social engineering approach that convinces you something is ok when its not that is common these days.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Lino Morales" <linomorales001@...>
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Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when there’s a problem with shut down

Good point Gene. I don't find it annoying and this is coming from a guy
who went from XP to WIN 10 back in September 2015.

On 11/11/2017 6:01 PM, Gene wrote:
Most of the time, UAC doesn't cause problems. All you have to do if
you hear a UAC message is issue the command alt y because you are in a
dialog and you are saying yes to the question being asked. Why, in
today's security environment, would you turn off UAC when responding
is so simple?
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*From:* The Wolf <mailto:hank.smith966@...>
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*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when
there’s a problem with shut down

start iac

rather start minue

type in uiac and set slider to 0

On 11/11/2017 2:35 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
Speaking of uac, it used to be possible to disable that. I don’t
know if that’s still true with windows 10. It saves a lot of hassle. I
suppose there are security implications of coarse.

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On Nov 11, 2017, at 1:21 PM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...
<mailto:sm.everiss@...>> wrote:

Well the uac can be.

To be honest when I get a system like this I just do a reformat and
load things myself and test, test, test.

Usually when I load my configs it doesn't do that.

If it does its bios, drivers or both.

The issue is when I have to deal with user software which gets in
the way.

I can do it that way but it takes longer, and costs the client and
myself more time.

I'd prefur to just reformat and reinstall windows and then I have
an easier time.

Ofcause after that loading each bit of software at a time will
eventually yeald the error.

9 times out of 10 at that stage its new or updated software.

And if it gets to that state I use google.

Sometimes a user needs a function and then just cracks software
that needs it or installs malware full software to get it working.

At that point I just ask them for the function and then I can
google that.

There is enough free opensource or low cost software that I either
find the entire package or the modules I need and if I am lucky a
wrapper front end to put them together.

The issue is then to convince the user to use said software.

I would to be honest ask the tech what stuff is on there.

ANd just get it reformatted and ask to get its hardware tested the
unit cleaned, sure its going to cost a bit but you have already got it
in the shop and are generating costs so get it done.

I have just had a system revived that stopped working the entire os
crashed, the system died.

Regreasing the syncs, clearing the dust and replacing the power
supply and all small fans and its up.

On 12/11/2017 8:55 a.m., Mary Otten wrote:
I have this new machine and it has NVDA on it. But in Vda does
not load at start up. We are having some problems with the machine,
and my husband thought he had narrowed it down to stuff screwing up
when you restart rather than shutting down the machine. Anyway, with
NVDA not loaded when the machine is shutting down, occasionally will
hang up and e speak will start talking. That is not the synthesizer I
have selected. But it does talk. And it is happened on a few
occasions. When he took it back to the store to let the tech look at
it, it did that once, and now the tech is blaming the whole thing on
NVDA. I’m sure that’s not correct, but I don’t know what to tell them.

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