Also, I checked and this setting is still in
about:config.
it has always been there but until this version, it has been in
advanced settings in options. It has been removed from
options. Most people don't know that
about:config exists and if
they do, why would they necessarily know that such a setting is
available there? It should be restored to options.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changes in the options menu
and an important missing setting
Are you talking about the block dangerous and deceptive
content setting? If so, this has nothing specifically to do
with blocking redirections per se and has nothing directly or
indirectly to do with stopping refreshes.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changes in the options menu
and an important missing setting
I'll look at the wording later but it sounds to me like a
very serious regression and omission in terms of accessibility.
Even if the setting blocks all redirections, and at this point I
don't know if it does, it evidently doesn't block page refreshes
because refreshes aren't a security threat. Blocking page
refreshes is an accessibility function and the feature should
not have been removed.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changes in the options menu
and an important missing setting
Hi Gene,
Under the built in phishing and malware settings, it explains
that this new feature warns you about potentially dangerous
sites and possible malware or phishing dangers. I believe this
would involve the redirection issue. You are given an option
when you load such a site and you can allow or block it.
On 11/17/2017 4:35 PM, Gene wrote:
The options interface has changed and has problems in the
new version. It looks to me as though it is supposed to be a
web page or more or less web page-like interface. For
whatever reason, NVDA can't be placed in browse mode when in
options and that means that in some fields, related text can't
be read. For example, there is text you can see with object
navigation related to the check to see if Firefox is the
default browser that tells you whether firefox is currently
the default browser. I haven't looked carefully through the
perhaps sixty or seventy settings looking for occasional text
that I have to find with object navigation or using alt b to
have NVDA read every object on the screen, but I suspect there
is text for certain other settings that isn't read and can't
be moved to by tabbing. Tabbing is the only way to move
through the interface from the keyboard.
The interface has been significantly rearranged, with only
four categories and different groupings such as startup in
each category. You tab through them all and through every
item in every grouping. There is no command to move from
grouping to grouping when working within a certain category.
If you don't want to work in a certain grouping, it doesn't
matter. If there are five items in the grouping, you must tab
through each one. It's like ribbons without the commands that
make ribbons efficient to work with.
Since the intent seemns to be to imitate ribbons in the
layout, I think the move by grouping commands used in ribbons
should be provided, that is, control right arrow and control
left arrow to move forward and backward by grouping. Those
who don't like ribbons or are afraid of them don't have to
worry. You work with the interface as you always have, but
there are a lot more items to tab through in each category.
Therefore, a means is necessary to allow the user to move by
grouping.
And, this is very important, where is the command to have
Firefox alert you if a page tries to refresh or redirect? I
didn't find it and I don't think it's there. I searched
carefully and repeatedly. This is a crucial command.
Gene
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