Re: need a virtual ribben addon for NVDA


Anyone can distribute or display the tutorial.
If you want to label sections, that's fine.

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Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] need a virtual ribben addon for NVDA

Hi Gene

I was just reading the emails on this topic. If you allow me i can paste your tutorial up on so others in the community can access it at any time to learn how to use them. it can go on a separate page and have the headings called split buttons and how to use ribbons with nvda. it will probably be along the same lines unless you want to give those sections a title each. the page it will most probably come off is nvda tutorials for other programs page just under the Microsoft word tutorial.

I was thinking along the lines of maybe doing a audio tutorial on using them which i can add to that page for other programs page. It would be a day or so before it goes up there.

That would be your written one.

I think i might have some thing written on the windows 10 page but am thinking of removing it any how.

I will put the tutorial is written by ..... unless you want it left off.

Gene nz

On 11/20/2017 10:25 AM, Gene wrote:
That is a different Gene.  I don't know if he put the tutorial I did on his site.  I don't restrict use of it in any way so it may be there.  Also, I send it in e-mail messages and I never thought of giving it a title.  I just paste it into the message and send it where people want it.  So if people have placed it on web sites, I don't know what they may call it. 
I'll send it in a following message.
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From: Mary Otten
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] need a virtual ribben addon for NVDA

Hi Jean,
Wasn’t that tutorial on your Accessibility central website? I actually went looking for yesterday, maybe I wasn’t in the right section, but I didn’t find it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 19, 2017, at 12:12 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

I doubt there is such an add on.  I haven't heard of one and a google search doesn't show one.  I don't know who you need it for or what teaching resources are available to the person in question but I would strongly recommend learning real ribbons.  Despite all the gnashing of teeth you hear, ribbons are not difficult.  they are just a different way of organizing an interface and everything is accessible.  I wrote a tutorial on ribbons that teaches their use with Wordpad since everyone has Wordpad.  I'll send it if you are interested. 
I also can find a link to an article that explains why virtual ribbons are actually inferior to real ribbons.
I wanty to make one point clearly.  It may be that there are people with conceptual disabilities who would have a hard time learning ribbons.  Most people shouldn't have particular difficulty and it should be assumed that people can learn them until experience shows that they have an unreasonable amount of difficulty.  If people were taught ribbons correctly, the ongoing resistance to them would be significantly reduced.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 1:48 PM
Subject: [nvda] need a virtual ribben addon for NVDA

              Hi guys. As a subject mentions, I need an NVDA addon that works like virtual ribben menues in jaws, so is there any addon available for NVDA? Thanks


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