Re: links on single line
There are times when it is beneficial to use the arrow keys. There are times when there are small amounts of text between links and you will miss them moving in all the ways you mention. And there are times when there are two or three sentences between a lot of links such as on many newspaper sites. When I look at the top news links on The New York Times page, I often let use read to end to hear for part of that section to hear the link, the headline, and the few senteences of text about the story that follow the link.
At times, moving in other ways shows you convenient ways to find things that you would miss otherwise. On the New York Times home page, there is a button that says all. Links and text for the most important stories are under this all button. If you only move by link, you won't know this. I don't recall now how I found this button as the very convenient and reliable landmark that it is, but it wasn't by moving just by links.
Also, an important reason I said that preserve screen layout shouldn't be on by default is for new or inexperienced Internet users. I don't want a new or inexperienced user to worry about moving by line or tabbing or in some other way while moving through links. I want the new or inexperienced user to have as much uniformity as possible. Defaults are not set for experienced users. If they were, no screen-reader would have their speech set nearly as slowly as it is. Why is this rule not followed with the screen layout setting?
Also, I'm quite sure I saw a similar setting choice in JAWS. I don't recall if I checked in Window-eyes.
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I am with you clare, 100% 😃
I always keep Preserve Screen layout on, not because I have sighted people looking at my screen, but because I don’t see any need to move between links with up and down arrows, when that can easily be done with the Tab key or the quick navigation keys k and shift+k, or even using links in the elements list.
Throughout my ten years of using JAWS there was no choice in the matter, there was no toggle, but with NVDA I’m glad we have a choice, between what seems to me to be a more accurate view of the website and one which is simply there because other screenreaders have it, so many blind people feel it is normal or convenient.
It’s possible that my view is a minority one in the blind community, but maybe I’m not the only one who finds nothing wrong with preserving screen layout in web browsers. That’s why I like the toggle in NVDA: those who want to arrow through links still have that option, but we’re not stuck with one or the other;
Bye for now!
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This brings up the question of why preserving screen layout is a good idea. I mean, maybe that has to do with working with sighted colleagues? But if that's the only reason, then I'm definitely turning it off as of little to no use.
On 12/6/2017 4:43 PM, Gene wrote: