Re: IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required


 

Hi,
Ah, future things: as some pointed out, wearables and mixed reality will be the future. Not long ago, I predicted the end of traditional blindness braille hardware (chiefly notetakers), which did come true.
As for NVDA and smartphones: is hardware everything? A car cannot drive itself unless it has engines, internal parts, and increasingly, sophisticated software system. Just because ARM64 processors run on smartphones doesn't mean NVDA is compatible.
Cheers,
Joseph

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adriani Botez
Sent: Friday, December 8, 2017 8:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required

Not today, but the whole conversation is about the future.

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 08.12.2017 um 17:53 schrieb Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>:

Hi,
NVDA will NOT work on any smartphone environment at this time.
Cheers,
Joseph

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Ron Canazzi
Sent: Friday, December 8, 2017 8:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4,
Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required

Hi Adriani,


Your reply was unclear. Which smart phone does NVDA work on?


On 12/8/2017 2:08 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:
NVDA does. That‘s why it supports arm64 now.


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 08.12.2017 um 07:20 schrieb Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@roadrunner.com>:

Hi Group,


I'm wondering if screen readers as we know them will even be around at all in 5 years. Everyone in the sighted world seems to be going more and more toward very small tablets or even just smart phones. I know a fellow who says I'm hopelessly behind and that he hasn't owned a desktop or old style laptop for over 2 years. If this trend continues, what will become of desktops and how will screen reader companies adapt. As of now neither NVDA or VFO are producing screen readers that work with smart phones.



On 12/7/2017 4:48 PM, Arlene wrote:
Oh? It will be a shock. How screen readers will be different in 5 years!

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Adriani Botez
Sent: December-07-17 1:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA
2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required

With respect, This is a wrong perception. Updates nowadays are bringing more security and more functionality. It is more than important to keep everything uptodate. Support will stop after a while for what you are using and it will be harder and harder to adapt to new technologies. If you keep updating regularly, you will be used to learn new functions and it will be very easy to adapt to new things. In 5 years screen readers will be much much different than today. For those who keep staying behind, they will loose the path. Please be aware of that.


Best
Adriani

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2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required

i am completely against any update, no different if updates are for softwares or operating system!
i only use anything that i need!

On 12/7/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Not necessarily, many of the ones that could have been pirates
have allowed

windows 10 on them, so I think this ias a pink herring. Its more
likely they

just turned them off then forgot. Also some of those machines tend
to be second user hand me downs so they are probably unaware the
updates had been

turned off. You only tend to open the bonnet when things stop working!

Brian

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From: "Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@roadrunner.com>
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Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA
2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required


I wonder if those who have such systems have pirate copies of
Windows and have turned off auto update.



On 12/7/2017 4:58 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Could I ask how people could end up without sp1, as I seem to
recall from

friends that this update some years back now was pushed
automatically to

existing systems and its not just nvda which relies on it either.

Also now, how would a user get it and install it, is it
relatively simple

on the Microsoft site or would you suggest going the whole way
and going

to 10 before 31st Dec while a free update is there. I'm assuming
that the

old version of 7 will still allow the update.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee"
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Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:18 PM
Subject: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA
2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required


Dear NVDA community,



It was brought to developers' attention that some people were
having issues upgrading to NVDA 2017.4, and turns out some were
using Windows 7 RTM build.
Thus the following community directive:



In order to use NVDA 2017.4 or later, Windows 7 Service Pack 1
or later

is
ABSOLUTELY required.



To find out which Windows release you've got:



1. Press Windows key to open Start menu.
2. Type "winver" without quotes and press Enter.
3. Check the build shown on About Windows dialog.



If the build number is 7601 or higher, you're all set. If it is
lower than
that:



* If using Windows 7 RTM (build number is 7600), please use
NVDA 2017.3, upgrade to Windows 7 SP1 first, then update to NVDA 2017.4.
* If using versions other than 7 (build number is less than
7600), then NVDA 2017.3 is the last supported version for you.



In the next few weeks, some add-on authors will announce
minimum supported versions of NVDA and Windows. For example, if
you are using StationPlaylist Studio add-on, starting from
version 17.12 stable, Windows 7 SP1 or higher is absolutely required.



Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph

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