Re: Parenthesis

brian <sackriderbrian45@...>

    I disagreee with Gene here what about when we only hear button or check box but there is no text to tell us what the button does or what we are check box is for and what we are checking or not checking.  Surveys and patitions are good for doing this as well as vidios or we hearclick here whear is here/  Also don't forget that not every one is an advanced screen reader user there are always new people who are just learning.  Full accessability means that everything is spoken.  A sighted user does not need as much discriptive text as we who are blind do.  Somthing that you don't need somone else just might need.  We all just don't all have the same needs so you can't judge and make a statment we don't need somthing like extra text.

Brian Sackrider

On 12/13/2017 1:39 PM, Gene wrote:
But I don't believe in altering standard text for screen-readers on a site for the general public.  Maybe, on a site intended only or almost     exclusively for blind people.  I haven't given that any thought.  But when we read books, if a chapter title is in all capitals, we either learn how to deal with it if it causes problems, or we don't.  This sort of thing goes far beyond the requirements of accessibility.  Screen-reader users have a responsibility to know something about the program they are using.  If all caps did cause me a problem, I would look at the line and spell what isn't being pronounced correctly.  You don't build a street so that people who don't know how to drive can drive on it.  You build a street for licensed drivers.  You shouldn't alter text under normal conditions because some blind people may not know how to use their screen-readers. 
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Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Parenthesis

I disagree see my other post. A lot depends on the synth though.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Devin Prater" <r.d.t.prater@...>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Parenthesis

All caps are not read any differently than any other text.

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology instructor in training, JAWS Sertified.

> On Dec 12, 2017, at 12:29 PM, Kwork <istherelife@...> wrote:
> With my punctuation set to some, it pauses on either side of the
> parenthesis. A comma does the same thing, so I would have to guess which
> is a paren and which a comma. Not that big a deal for me. If I really want
> to know, I'll investigate on my own. I don't know about other punctuation
> levels as about all I use is some, so others would be able to answer that
> better.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: tonea.ctr.morrow@...
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 9:12 AM
> Subject: [nvda] Parenthesis
> How does the software treat parenthesis (such as this) when it does
> speech? How does it convey to the listener that the comment (possibly
> unimportant) is an aside comment? I need to know so I can understand how
> my audience will hear it, both literally and figuratively.
> Thanks!
> Tonea

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