Sorry, Gene, but I do not agree with you...
1 - As other member said, remember that the two major "markets"
are India and Brazil.
In those two countries, specially India, but also some parts of
Brazil, every Mb of downloads count...
2 - Several NVDA actual core functions have started as addons,
and since their utility the NVDA team included it in the core...
So, not a duplicate of efforts, but more as a field test of the
utility of that function...
3 - Every NVDA local or/and language community should maintain a
database of the major addosns available to use.
Rui
Às 01:15 de 18/12/2017, Gene escreveu:
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A lot of NVDA users won't ever know enough to know that there
are add ons nor how to install them. You are free to remove any
add ons you don't want and, for experienced users who understand
the implications, a no add ons NVDA can be offered if it really
matters, which I don't think it does. I'm not talking about
including add on after add on in NVDA. I'm saying that some add
ons should be included because you aren't serving a lot of blind
people well by not doing so, meaning the large number, who will
never use add ons they have to download and install. Instead of
spending time and resources reinventing the wheel just to make
it a part of core NVDA code, just include the add on.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] competition
What I've liked and am liking of the AddOns on NVDA is the
ability to install those that suits are needs, thus NVDA should
be pure as always, but with each of us adding the necessary
AddOns for our daily use.
El 17/12/2017 a las 06:16 p.m., Rui
Fontes escribió:
Sorry, Gene, but if some of the addons will be shipped with
NVDA and set to run, they should stop being addons and start
being part of NVDA core...
Addon, by definition, is a piece of software to execute a
specific function that does not make part of the NVDA core...
Regards,
Rui Fontes
Às 00:07 de 18/12/2017, Gene
escreveu:
NVDA doesn't have to adopt every popular feature of other
screen-readers to compete. I don't have much opinion about
whether this feature is implemented in NVDA directly or by
an add on. It is a peripheral feature and not an actual
screen-reader feature. It is a proper question whether NVDA
development time and resources should be put into this
project. And an add on wouldn't divert NVDA time and
resources. However, when it comes to add ons, NVDA should
do what Window-eyes used to do, not because Window-eyes does
it, but because it serves users well, is logical and there
is no reason of any substance not to do it.
Window-eyes used to accomplish a number of functions by
having a number of what it pretentiously called apps, they
were really scripts, but they were available to users as add
ons and were shipped with Window-eyes and were set to run at
the time of installation. Many users of whatever
screen-reader they use will never learn enough to know
anything about add ons. there are a number of add ons that
should be incorporated into NVDA as addons that are
downloaded and are running when NVDA is run.
If this were done, the major objection against making a
feature an add on would be done away with. the objection is
that a lot of people will never know about add ons and never
use whatever is being discussed. If this objection were
done away with by having many add ons be included in NVDA as
running add ons at the time of download and installation or
portable use, the whole question and argument about whether
something should be an add on could be done away with.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 4:16 PM
Subject: [nvda] competition
When it comes to the new screen shade function in Jaws 2018
and if NVDA
should also have the same function the main question is
whether or not
NVDA is in competition with other screen readers in order to
get more
users or is NVDA just a free screen reader for those who can't
afford to
pay for a screen reader.
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