Karim Lakhani <karim.lakhani@...>
Could we as NVDA users have the choice which version works the
best for the individual?
That way we can choose which version to down
load?
personally the voice over APP. with the Phone's out of
the box it's great.
People can jail break and all, so as the people who
code NVDA, would have to be the persons who decides what is
important.
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Karim,
They are not included because Add-ons, as the name suggests, are optional.
Integrating them into the installer would mean that the installer filesize would
be inflated, resulting in a much bigger download for everyone.
On 19/12/2017 9:30 am, Karim Lakhani wrote:
Hi,
Can someone explain why add are not included in the
main install of the APP.
If the add on's are useable by all the community, why not
add them in the main install?
I hope this doesn't come down to the amount of data you
have, I know it will be cheaper then 1800.00
Some of us don't have the knowledge to accomplish
these functions.
I think it's like Elisa, she only gets smarter the more you
use it.
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I have to agree with this.
My wife asked to question the other day why use NVDA if I have to install
addons to do the stuff I want to do then also have to keep them updated. I see
this a lot with the disability place I work for part time. I have several
elders after showing them nvda and jaws have chosen jaws do to the fact they
don’t have to deal with addons.
A lot of NVDA users
won't ever know enough to know that there are add ons nor how to install
them. You are free to remove any add ons you don't want and, for
experienced users who understand the implications, a no add ons NVDA can be
offered if it really matters, which I don't think it does. I'm not
talking about including add on after add on in NVDA. I'm saying that
some add ons should be included because you aren't serving a lot of blind
people well by not doing so, meaning the large number, who will never use
add ons they have to download and install. Instead of spending time and
resources reinventing the wheel just to make it a part of core NVDA code, just
include the add on.
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Sent: Sunday, December
17, 2017 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda]
competition
What I've liked and am liking of the AddOns on NVDA is the ability to
install those that suits are needs, thus NVDA should be pure as always, but
with each of us adding the necessary AddOns for our daily use.
El 17/12/2017 a las 06:16 p.m., Rui Fontes
escribió:
Sorry, Gene, but if some of the addons will be shipped with NVDA and set
to run, they should stop being addons and start being part of NVDA
core...
Addon, by definition, is a piece of software to execute a specific
function that does not make part of the NVDA core...
Regards,
Rui Fontes
Às 00:07 de 18/12/2017, Gene
escreveu:
NVDA doesn't have to adopt every popular feature of
other screen-readers to compete. I don't have much opinion about
whether this feature is implemented in NVDA directly or by an add
on. It is a peripheral feature and not an actual screen-reader
feature. It is a proper question whether NVDA development time and
resources should be put into this project. And an add on wouldn't
divert NVDA time and resources. However, when it comes to add ons,
NVDA should do what Window-eyes used to do, not because Window-eyes does
it, but because it serves users well, is logical and there is no reason of
any substance not to do it.
Window-eyes used to accomplish a number of functions by
having a number of what it pretentiously called apps, they were really
scripts, but they were available to users as add ons and were shipped with
Window-eyes and were set to run at the time of installation. Many
users of whatever screen-reader they use will never learn enough to know
anything about add ons. there are a number of add ons that should be
incorporated into NVDA as addons that are downloaded and are running when
NVDA is run.
If this were done, the major objection against making a
feature an add on would be done away with. the objection is that a
lot of people will never know about add ons and never use whatever is
being discussed. If this objection were done away with by having
many add ons be included in NVDA as running add ons at the time of
download and installation or portable use, the whole question and argument
about whether something should be an add on could be done away with.
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Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 4:16
PM
Subject: [nvda]
competition
When it comes to the new
screen shade function in Jaws 2018 and if NVDA
should also have the
same function the main question is whether or not
NVDA is in
competition with other screen readers in order to get more
users or is
NVDA just a free screen reader for those who can't afford to
pay for a
screen reader.
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