Re: Another Wording Question


Joseph lee's message raises a question I've wondered about a bit now and then.  If it can gbe described to the layman without unreasonable effort, I've wondered why a screen-reader might read a control one way and another screen-reader read it with different wording.  Until perhaps a year ago, I had assumed that controls all had readable text and that screen-readers would read them all the same, but an earlier comment from Joseph and a variation I observed on a button caused me to realize that screen-readers don't necessarily speak the same things.  So how do screen-readers know how to read controls and why are there differences? 
For example, on the Send Space home page, the button that opens the select file to upload dialog is read as "browse".  Chrome reads it as something like "choose file".  So evidently, this button is not labeled with text but is recognized as a category or function control.  I'm not sure if I'm expressing it as clearly as I might but I think it's understandable.
In the specific help page being asked about, can these controls be labeled with text or alt text so they will all be read the same regardless of screen-reader?

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Another Wording Question

I don't think there is exact wording that you need to worry about.  What you wrote is very understandable and whether the item would say close this window or just close, I think your explanation makes any reasonable working of the actual control fine.  for consistency, you might want to have the control say close this window since that's what you write in the description but as far as a prescribed wording, I doubt there is any.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 10:14 AM
Subject: [nvda] Another Wording Question

I am creating a text version of a help page. I need to describe in text a common pop-up window that the windows operating system displays. It would be shown as a picture to sighted users. To describe it, I have written:


When the file is made, you will be asked whether to open it or save it. A pop-up window will appear to ask "Do you want to open or save filename from" followed by the buttons Open, Save, Cancel, and Close this Window.


As a sighted user, I see an X on the pop-up window and know that it means “Close this Window”. But, how does it read to you? Is it called “Close this Window” or what is it called by the screen reader?


Likewise, the Save button is really a drop-down menu that is defaulted to Save. How does it call out the menu to you? I want to use the right words in my description.


Thanks and sorry for the bother,



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