Yeah and its getting worse, I just read into an article, aparently google and amazon are having a fistfight.

So if it spreads we will have a virtual ww3 on our hands everyone is chucking nukes about, no one knows why they are fighting anymore.




On 10/01/2018 7:45 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

No its all a cunning plot. First Firefox now Skype.
Brian

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Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!

It really sucks for us especially and I am tempted to yell at somebody
until they listen to us. We can't use Skype the way it is now. I thought
Accessibility was supposed to be getting better!


On 9/01/2018 8:33 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

Yes I mentioned this in another thread, but of course that would mean
that much more effort would be required to write software and decide
what front ends to support etc.
To me, currently Skype and for that matter universal apps has lost the
plot in that they are not universal at all as writers can make them
all look completely different, when at least in classic windows one
knew you had a menu bar toolbars etc, and not this apparent throw
everything up in the air and where it drops is where it stays muddle
we have now.
Brian

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Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!

It does.

I have switched all my users to skype universal to keep the software
updated but to be honest skype classic is in the tablets section so
unless ms decides that windows tablets need to update to universal to
which they will probably do eventually then maybe.

At any rate even if skype does die, they will have to change the
minimal version on server to have it not even work and they only just
did that last year and that was for 7.2 and older, up to this point
you could probably still work with 6 or 5 or 4 or even 3 maybe not 2
but even so, who knows.

This new skype 8 will last till the end of win 8x at any rate.

It would be good if ms let us blinks use our own windows desktops,
shells and interfaces for their cores so we could use their stuff
without their junk.




On 8/01/2018 10:23 p.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

I think the question has to be, does the old version of Skype, the
one used by windows 7, install OK on 10, and if it does why do we
need the new one?
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Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2018 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!


Hi,
The universal Skype app is the Windows 10 version of Skype.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Byrne
Sent: Sunday, January 7, 2018 1:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!

What is the universal skype app???
At 03:03 PM 1/7/2018, you wrote:

I use Skype for WIN 10 also. Their is nothing wrong with it. Don't
knock it till you try it guys.

On 1/6/2018 10:50 PM, David Moore wrote:

I use the universal Skype app all the time.
Tabbing three or four times, is not that bad, along with some key
commands. I can find what I want quicker than I can with the desktop
program. NVDA really works well with the Skype app. That is awesome.
Have a great one, guys!
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Windows 10
From: <mailto:joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2018 10:12 PM
To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!
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Hi,
Skype universal app does have shortcut keys, such as Alt+1 to go to
conversations, Alt+2 for contacts, Alt+3 for bots and so on).
Cheers,
Joseph
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That's such a slugish and obnoxious way to navigate a programme,
really. Come on Microsoft.
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Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!
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In the new Windows app thing? Sure. In fact I think it's the only way
to use it really.
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On 1/6/2018 20:28, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:

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Can you still tab around Skype like normal, though? I'm curious,
because I've never really used keyboard shortcuts. Just menus and
tabbing between options.
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On 7/01/2018 1:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

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Awesome. It's gone. Thanks. I'll go install the classic version
here in a bit.
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On 1/6/2018 9:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

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OK, I didn't think it worked that way for universal apps.
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On 1/6/2018 8:58 PM, Rich De Steno wrote:

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The same way you uninstall any program:
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Press your Windows key and type remove  Arrow down to "Add

and

Remove Programs and press Enter  Arrow down to Skype in the
list of programs  Press your applications key and arrow

down to

remove and press Enter    On 1/6/2018 7:38 PM,
Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

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So then, I guess my next question would be how to

uninstall the

universal version within Windows 10. I guess Google's to the
rescue. LOL!
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On 1/6/2018 6:49 PM, iván Novegil wrote:

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Yes, installer downloaded from both links works with

windows10.

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Skype forces to use Universal app only in 8.x. I could

install

7.x (version downloadable from the two links sent) in Win10
without problems some weeks ago.
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Wow! Thank you for this link. Will this work with

Windows 10

as well? I'm not much a fan of the Universal app version of

Skype.

Don't get me wrong. It's O... Kayyyy, but, I definitely

don't

prefer it.
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I don't have all the issue with Skype that a lot of people
seem to have, in fact, I personally enjoy using it, so if I
can get that Universal version uninstalled in Windows 10,

and

get rid of the classic version, that would be fantastic!
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On 1/6/2018 11:39 AM, Marten Post Uiterweer wrote:

Rich,
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Remove your current skype installation and install the

skype

classic version from this link: If you do not remove the

old

installation, you will get two skype

versions after installation of the classic version.

<http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-full>;http://www.skype.com/go/getsky
pe-full

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Regards, Marten
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I've never had it force an update on

windows 7. it always asks to which I say politely no thanks.

  I'm not sure how one gets the old version.
However there does seem to have been

a long history with Skype mucking it up on every update they do. I
hardly ever use it these days personally, but for many years the
tendency to hi jack the audio settings and not put them back
afterwards seemed rather draconian to me.

  Brian
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Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 5:42 AM
Subject: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete

Disaster!

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I have used NVDA successfully with Skype for many years.
Suddenly, tonight, on my Windows 7 laptop, when I entered
Skype, a new version was forcibly installed, something

like

Version 8.1.2, and it presented me with an interface

that I

could not comprehend with NVDA. None of the shortcut keys
that I previously used would work. I received a call

from a

friend right after this forced installation and could not
answer it, because the usual alt-PageUp key combo for
answering a call was useless, as were all other previous
shortcut keys. What is the solution to this problem. I
totally uninstalled Skype for now. Do we give up on Skype
as NVDA

users, or install a different version or perhaps some other chat
program?

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