Re: NVDA question on OCR


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To be honest I never had a lot of luck with the OCR in the add on myself. I guess because its a free one it has limitations so if your picture is in any way mis aligned or fuzzy Klingon is the result!
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Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 6:42 PM
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Hi

If you look in the menus of nvda by pressing the nvda key + letter N then go down to preferences then right to general settings then down to windows 10 ocr there will be a menu there but is more to set your language. You must also have windows 10 as well at present i am using nvda 2017.4.

When you want to ocr say a photo with text etc in it make sure it is in focus then use the nvda key + letter R.

it will start recognizing it and rip the text out of it of which then you can arrow up and down to see what is there. It brings up a little windows where you can do that and even do it letter by letter and character by character. It can also be copied and pasted.

If you do not have a windows 10 machine that option will not be there.

Instead then you have to use the other ocr add on and it is slightly different to read the text. I can give directions to use that one and point you in the right direction if this is the case.

Gene nz

On 2/7/2018 9:02 PM, Alma wrote:
Hi Tina,

I’d like to know, too.

Alma

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From: tina sohl<mailto:tinabir80@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 8:34 PM
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I keep hearing that there is an OCR option for nvda is it true OCR? And that you can scan a piece of mail or a book with it? If that's true, how does it work and where do you get it I looked and can't find it and only see stuff about recognizing images on the screen like on Facebook or something but then I keep hearing that there is actual OCR so can someone tell me how to find it and if that's true or not thanks

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On Feb 6, 2018 6:39 PM, "Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io" <k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io<mailto:yahoo.ca@groups.io>> wrote:
thanks
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1. NVDA-S
2. 2) there will be an addin coming out soon doing exactley what you ask for

Cheers,
Ralf
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>] On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
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1 how to turn off and on speach mode in NVDA
2 how to have numlock key be off when computer starts using NVDA and start it when u want


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From: Quentin Christensen<mailto:quentin@nvaccess.org>
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Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 10:00 PM
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Hi Kerryn,

I copied this from last October's In-Process re using OCR. Basically:

To do OCR with NVDA 2017.4 on Windows 10:
1. Open the PDF file in Adobe Reader.
2. Press NVDA+r. NVDA reports “Recognising”. After a pause, NVDA reports “Result document”.
3. Although visually, the screen hasn’t changed, NVDA has placed the text recognised in the image in a “virtual document”. You can navigate around this just like a document in WordPad. Press NVDA+down arrow (laptop: NVDA+a) to read the whole document from the current point.
4. Press control+home to move to the top of the virtual document.
5. Press down arrow to move through and read the text line by line.
6. When finished, press escape to exit the virtual document.

Or, using Windows 7 or 8 OR NVDA earlier than 2017.3:
1. Open the PDF file in Adobe Reader
2. Press NVDA+r. NVDA reports “Recognising”. After a pause, NVDA reports “Done”.
3. Although visually, the screen hasn’t changed, NVDA has placed the text recognised in the image in a “virtual document”. You can navigate around this using the review cursor. Press numpad plus (laptop: NVDA+shift+a) to read the whole document from the current point
4. Press shift+numpad 7 (laptop: NVDA+control+home) to move to the top of the virtual document.
5. Press numpad 9 (laptop: NVDA+down arrow) to move through and read the text line by line.

The article is: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-5th-october-2017/

With regard to "utilising the mouse arrow", could you please clarify exactly what you are trying to do? Yes it is possible to do several things either with the mouse, or to the mouse and with further information, I can give you steps for that also.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 11:17 AM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io<mailto:k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io>> wrote:
1 how to use NVDA to do OCR? say for pdf documents
2 with jaws the mouse arrow is utilised, could the mouse arrow be used with NVDA?
hey devin could u contact me privately?
email is
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thanks
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I like the idea too, along with voice changes or sounds to denote different attributes, such as style changes in word and email, or HTML elements on the web.
Devin Prater
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On Feb 4, 2018, at 2:21 PM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com<mailto:marrie12@gmail.com>> wrote:

This actually reminds me of JFW in that an attachment was detected and for me I had a sliding tone play so I could know what was going on very quickly. I like the idea actually.

On Feb 4, 2018, at 3:12 AM, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com<mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>> wrote:

You are assuming a sound would be wanted for every punctuation sign. And at least in Engglish and many languages, there aren't that many. Period, question mark, colon, semicolon quotation marks and you might want a sound for ellipsis. You could have more sounds as well. You could have sounds in the pronunciation dictionary so you can assign sounds for whatever you want. The user could even put sound files in the program if he/she doesn't like what is provided. Now let's see what kinds of sounds we might have Bell, whistle, door close, door open, chime, and all sorts of variations such as high pitch bell, low pitch bell, car dor, a door such as in a house, and other people may come up with all sorts of other examples. The world is full of distinctive sounds. And JAWS has had such a feature for probably over a dedcade so this is not at all a novel idea.

Gene
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No maybe not but this would need a lot of sounds and I question how easy it
might be to come up with enough of them to be easy to recognise.
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The user would select the sound for the specific punctuation. There
wouldn't be preassigned sounds.

Gene
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I'm sure you were aware that there was a now dead comedian who made a lot of
money with his monologues where he substituted sounds for Punctuation!
Victor Borge'

Now my one problem with having a mode like this is, given the number of
different marks and their meaning in different circumstances in different
languages, it could need one heck of a lot of individual sounds to cover
them all. I do know what you are getting at different sorts of brackets and
colons etc, are main candidates, with underscores being also useful.

Maybe this is add on territory ie a programmers version as most of us prefer
not to hear these greater thans etc all over the place, but obviously such
things are important in programming as are brackets and indents etc.
Brian

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Sent: Friday, February 02, 2018 10:16 PM
Subject: [nvda] Substitute punctuation marks with sounds


Hello all,

Is there a way to substitute punctuation marks with custom sounds? I am a
developer and often times I have to listen to tongue twisters of
punctuation marks, like "left bracket right brace left paren .." I wish
to replace all these parens and brackets with sounds. Is there a way to do
so in NVDA?

Thanks
Tony












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