Kerryn Gunness <k_gunness@...>
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Some additional
resources:
Bart Busschots
produces a podcast called “Programming by Stealth.” Starting with the basics
of HTML and CSS, it gets into the intricacies of JavaScript and jQuery. It is
entertaining and some episodes have homework with proposed solutions the next
episode. This is an ongoing podcast, with 49 episodes so far. He even
sometimes discusses accessibility.
https://www.bartbusschots.ie/s/blog/programming-by-stealth/
Another good
resource is Deque University. They provide Comprehensive Web Accessibility
courses. If you have a disability, you can qualify for free access to Deque
University to learn web accessibility skills.
https://dequeuniversity.com/
Rick
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Darren
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 9:47 PM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] programming
question
May
I suggest www.w3schools.com , it’s a
wonderful resource and fully accessible. there are also several online schools
that can be very helpful. You’re welcome to contact me off group if you want
more info.
it is abit
challenging, i use
to read on how to
build websites
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Sent: Thursday, February
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You’re
most welcome. May I ask how you’re going about learning web
dev?
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Sent: Thursday,
February 8, 2018 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda]
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Hi
Kerryn,
NVDA
works great with the following languages: HTML, CSS, PHP, JavaScript,
Python, SQL. I know there are more that it probably works well with but
those are the ones I can personally speak to. As to editors, Notepad++ is
what I personally use and it’s wonderful as long as you remember to set up
a profile to have all punctuation read. Hope this
helps.
Rayn
1 does NVDA work
with python or any popular programming
language?
2 in developing
websites, what software do you all use, note pad, note pad ++ or an
external software like dream wever or
fireworks?
is NVDA
accessible with these?
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Sent: Wednesday,
February 7, 2018 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda]
NVDA question
Hi everyone,
Sorry, I was out all day yesterday, so coming back in
late to all the questions. It looks like most have been
answered.
Re the OCR, if you are using Windows 10 and NVDA
20173 or later, you don't need an addon for OCR. If you are using
an either version of either NVDA or Windows, then you will need the
addon. Basically, the OCR works on images, whether jpg graphic
files or PDF documents etc. It won't do the scanning of hardcopy
documents itself - to do that you will need scanning software. Any
hardware scanner should come with software, and possibly also an OCR
program, though how accessible and how good any of them are
varies. So the Windows 10 OCR, or the addon are really useful, but
likely not a complete replacement for an OCR package like Omnipage or
Abbyy Finereader, particularly for converting hardcopy documents into
electronic text.
The other thing to consider is why you want to move
the mouse. Depending on where you are and what you are trying to
do, NVDA has a feature called "object navigation" which is very powerful
although does take a little bit to get your head around.
Essentially object navigation lets you move through the objects in the
current program (and out of the current program). Microsoft Word
for instance has objects for the ribbon, the scroll bars, ruler and main
document. When you go into an object (say the ribbon), you can
move through the ribbon sections, then go down into a particular section
to navigate through the ribbon items in that section. Some people
like it for navigating the ribbon, but another thing you can do with it,
is get to features which you can't ordinarily get to with the keyboard
and interact with it - it can be used to read, and copy read only text
on a dialog box for instance.
Bonus tip: You can copy the text from a dialog box
which has focus, by simply pressing CONTROL+C. For instance, open
Notepad, type something, press ALT+F4. A dialog will appear asking
"Do you want to save changes to untitled" with buttons for "save",
"don't save" and "cancel". To copy all that, simply press
CONTROL+C. It copies the following to the
clipboard:
Do you want to save changes to
Untitled?
[Save] [Don't Save]
[Cancel]
On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 5:42 AM, Gene New Zealand
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wrote:
Hi
If you look in the menus of nvda by
pressing the nvda key + letter N then go down to preferences then right
to general settings then down to windows 10 ocr there will be a menu
there but is more to set your language. You must also have windows 10 as
well at present i am using nvda 2017.4.
When you want to ocr say
a photo with text etc in it make sure it is in focus then use the nvda
key + letter R.
it will start recognizing it and rip the text out
of it of which then you can arrow up and down to see what is there. It
brings up a little windows where you can do that and even do it letter
by letter and character by character. It can also be copied and
pasted.
If you do not have a windows 10 machine that option will
not be there.
Instead then you have to use the other ocr add on
and it is slightly different to read the text. I can give directions to
use that one and point you in the right direction if this is the
case.
Gene nz
On 2/7/2018 9:02 PM, Alma wrote:
Hi
Tina,
I’d like
to know, too.
Alma
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from Mail for Windows 10
I keep hearing that there is an OCR
option for nvda is it true OCR? And that you can scan a piece of mail
or a book with it? If that's true, how does it work and where do you
get it I looked and can't find it and only see stuff about recognizing
images on the screen like on Facebook or something but then I keep
hearing that there is actual OCR so can someone tell me how to find it
and if that's true or not thanks
sent from my android
On Feb
6, 2018 6:39 PM, "Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io" <k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: [nvda] NVDA question
- NVDA-S
- 2)
there will be an addin coming out soon doing exactley what you
ask for
Cheers,
Ralf
1
how to turn off and on speach mode in
NVDA
2
how to have numlock key be off when computer starts using NVDA and
start it when u want
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Sent:
Monday, February 05, 2018 10:00 PM
Subject: Re:
[nvda] NVDA question
Hi Kerryn,
I copied this from last October's In-Process re using
OCR. Basically:
To do OCR with NVDA 2017.4 on Windows
10:
1. Open the PDF file in Adobe
Reader.
2.
Press NVDA+r. NVDA reports “Recognising”. After a
pause, NVDA reports “Result document”.
3. Although visually, the screen
hasn’t changed, NVDA has placed the text recognised in the image
in a “virtual document”. You can navigate around this just like
a document in WordPad. Press NVDA+down
arrow (laptop: NVDA+a) to read the whole
document from the current point.
4.
Press control+home to move to the top of the
virtual document.
5
Press down arrow to move through and read the
text line by line.
6.
When finished, press escape to exit the virtual
document.
Or,
using Windows 7 or 8 OR NVDA earlier than
2017.3:
1.
Open the PDF file in Adobe Reader
2.
Press NVDA+r. NVDA reports “Recognising”. After a
pause, NVDA reports “Done”.
3. Although visually, the screen
hasn’t changed, NVDA has placed the text recognised in the image
in a “virtual document”. You can navigate around this using the
review cursor. Press numpad
plus (laptop: NVDA+shift+a) to read the
whole document from the current point
4.
Press shift+numpad
7 (laptop: NVDA+control+home) to move to
the top of the virtual document.
5. Press numpad
9 (laptop: NVDA+down arrow) to move through
and read the text line by line.
With
regard to "utilising the mouse arrow", could you please clarify
exactly what you are trying to do? Yes it is possible to
do several things either with the mouse, or to the mouse and
with further information, I can give you steps for that
also.
On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 11:17 AM, Kerryn Gunness via
Groups.Io <k_gunness@...>
wrote:
1 how
to use NVDA to do OCR? say for pdf
documents
2
with jaws the mouse arrow is utilised, could the mouse arrow
be used with NVDA?
hey
devin could u contact me
privately?
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Sent:
Sunday, February 4, 2018 6:18 PM
Subject:
Re: [nvda] Substitute punctuation marks with
sounds
I like the idea too, along with voice changes or
sounds to denote different attributes, such as style changes
in word and email, or HTML elements on the
web.
Devin
Prater
Assistive Technology
Instructor
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On Feb 4, 2018, at 2:21 PM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...>
wrote:
This actually reminds me of JFW in that an
attachment was detected and for me I had a sliding tone
play so I could know what was going on very quickly. I
like the idea actually.
You
are assuming a sound would be wanted for every
punctuation sign. And at least in Engglish and
many languages, there aren't that many. Period,
question mark, colon, semicolon quotation marks and you
might want a sound for ellipsis. You could have
more sounds as well. You could have sounds in the
pronunciation dictionary so you can assign sounds for
whatever you want. The user could even put sound
files in the program if he/she doesn't like what is
provided. Now let's see what kinds of sounds we
might have Bell, whistle, door close, door open,
chime, and all sorts of variations such as high pitch
bell, low pitch bell, car dor, a door such as in a
house, and other people may come up with all sorts of
other examples. The world is full of distinctive
sounds. And JAWS has had such a feature for
probably over a dedcade so this is not at all a novel
idea.
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Sent: Sunday,
February 04, 2018 2:54 AM
Subject: Re:
[nvda] Substitute punctuation marks with
sounds
No
maybe not but this would need a lot of sounds and I
question how easy it
might
be to come up with enough of them to be easy to
recognise.
Brian
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Sent:
Saturday, February 03, 2018 1:49 PM
Subject: Re:
[nvda] Substitute punctuation marks with
sounds
The user would select the sound for
the specific punctuation. There
wouldn't
be preassigned sounds.
Gene
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I'm sure you were aware that there was
a now dead comedian who made a lot of
money with his
monologues where he substituted sounds for
Punctuation!
Victor Borge'
Now my one problem
with having a mode like this is, given the number
of
different marks and their meaning in different
circumstances in different
languages, it could need
one heck of a lot of individual sounds to
cover
them all. I do know what you are getting at
different sorts of brackets and
colons etc, are main
candidates, with underscores being also
useful.
Maybe this is add on territory ie a
programmers version as most of us prefer
not to hear
these greater thans etc all over the place, but
obviously such
things are important in programming as
are brackets and indents
etc.
Brian
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From:
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To:
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Sent:
Friday, February 02, 2018 10:16 PM
Subject: [nvda]
Substitute punctuation marks with sounds
>
Hello all,
>
> Is there a way to substitute
punctuation marks with custom sounds? I am a
>
developer and often times I have to listen to tongue
twisters of
> punctuation marks, like "left
bracket right brace left paren .." I wish
> to
replace all these parens and brackets with sounds. Is
there a way to do
> so in NVDA?
>
>
Thanks
>
Tony
>
>
>
>
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