Re: NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is


Sharni-Lee Ward
 

...What HAPPENED to the espeak voice? It sounds choppy and distorted (at least Linda does) and it was honestly hurting my ears.


And the Master snapshot doesn't have the braille table I'd prefer to use, which is why I got that other snapshot when I did. The newer more experimental table fixed the problem of emdashes being replaced by eight cells of nonsense that took up more space than necessary, and formatting representations, and missed contractions...


I can't use this.

On 4/05/2016 5:47 AM, Gene wrote:
I believe the new production version will be released in about a month.  However, I would expect the master snapshot to be probably stable or reasonably stable.  You can use a portable version if you want to evaluate it without installing it.  I haven't used new snapshots fir a while but my experience in the past has been that the snapshots I've used have been stable.  That doesn't mean that they all are.  They are versions still in development and not beta tested.
 
The page to see and download the latest snapshots is
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is

Hi,


The reason the driver was still trying to do something was that I had
used the old snapshot I had in conjunction with my display to read for a
bit, then had disconnected the display without resetting the "display"
setting in Braille Settings to "No Braille". As I said, it lasted
longer, but still locked up at the most inconvenient time...


Can I have a link to this master snapshot? And is this building toward
the next release or are some things not ready for that yet? If the
former, when is the next release? Is it some time this month, or next?


On 3/05/2016 6:29 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
> No, to me unless there has been some significant malware or crash from
> a bit of software, then the registry can be repaired automatically by
> windows.
>
> Beware however, as next week is update week.
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal email to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 11:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is
>
>
>> Hey, before you have to format the computer. Why not run chkdsk and
>> then go
>> into the bios and see what can be the problem. I'd use format as the
>> last
>> resort. Or if you just want to do it and get it over with. then go
>> ahead and
>> do one. Good luck!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sharni-Lee Ward [mailto:sharni-lee.ward@...]
>> Sent: May-02-16 9:17 AM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is
>>
>> It just happened AGAIN. This time, with no Braille Display plugged in,
>> but still in Word. My sister described what she saw as "It's circling
>> and the screen is foggy," so I'm assuming it was hanging. It took longer
>> than normal to shut down, and longer than normal to start up properly,
>> and apparently Windows Explorer lagged for a few seconds. I don't know
>> how to recover my writing (I tried one of the previous times this
>> happened by restoring the auto recovery file from the Recycle bin but it
>> didn't work...).
>>
>>
>> Anyways, here's the log. I hope this time I can get an answer for why
>> this is happening. I'm getting seriously concerned at this point.
>>
>>
>> INFO - __main__ (00:26:15):
>> Starting NVDA
>> INFO - core.main (00:26:19):
>> Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda
>> INFO - core.main (00:26:20):
>> NVDA version brltbl20160315
>> INFO - core.main (00:26:20):
>> Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation
>> INFO - core.main (00:26:20):
>> Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec  5 2015,
>> 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
>> INFO - core.main (00:26:20):
>> Using comtypes version 0.6.2
>> INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (00:26:24):
>> Using eSpeak version 1.48.03  04.Mar.14
>> INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (00:26:24):
>> Loaded synthDriver ptenglish
>> INFO - core.main (00:26:24):
>> Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)
>> INFO - braille.initialize (00:26:24):
>> Using liblouis version 2.6.5
>> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:26:24):
>> Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
>> INFO - brailleInput.initialize (00:26:24):
>> Braille input initialized
>> INFO - core.main (00:26:25):
>> NVDA initialized
>> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:27:25):
>> Loaded braille display driver freedomScientific, current display has 40
>> cells.
>> ERROR - queueHandler.flushQueue (00:33:30):
>> Error in func _handleUpdate from eventQueue
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>   File "queueHandler.pyc", line 50, in flushQueue
>>   File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 674, in _handleUpdate
>>   File "braille.pyc", line 1645, in handleUpdate
>>   File "braille.pyc", line 906, in update
>>   File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 346, in expand
>>   File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 314, in _getUnitOffsets
>>   File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 328, in _getUnitOffsets
>>   File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 256, in _getParagraphOffsets
>> WindowsError: [Error 1775] A null context handle was passed from the
>> client to the host during a remote procedure call
>>
>>
>> On 3/05/2016 12:15 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
>>> Just tried another thing that consistently got NVDA to hang recently,
>>> namely, opening the sounds manager in Control Panel and then
>>> arrowing to
>>> the Sound Scheme tab. I thought it only did this because of the Braille
>>> Display but I wanted to test it to make sure. This time, once the
>>> window
>>> was closed, NVDA started responding again. I also tried to activate
>>> Narrator but it didn't work, though as I said, that didn't end up
>>> mattering. Here's the log for that session, though I warn you, the
>>> warning repeats itself several times. In case each warning was subtly
>>> different, I copied the whole thing. Don't worry about the Braille
>>> error
>>> that shows up first-that's about me starting up the computer and by
>>> extension NVDA without my display plugged in and then saving the
>>> configuration with default as No Braille.
>>>
>>>
>>> INFO - __main__ (18:51:56):
>>> Starting NVDA
>>> INFO - core.main (18:51:59):
>>> Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda
>>> INFO - core.main (18:52:00):
>>> NVDA version 2016.1
>>> INFO - core.main (18:52:00):
>>> Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation
>>> INFO - core.main (18:52:00):
>>> Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec  5 2015,
>>> 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
>>> INFO - core.main (18:52:00):
>>> Using comtypes version 0.6.2
>>> INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (18:52:10):
>>> Using eSpeak version 1.48.03  04.Mar.14
>>> INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (18:52:11):
>>> Loaded synthDriver ptenglish
>>> INFO - core.main (18:52:11):
>>> Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)
>>> INFO - braille.initialize (18:52:11):
>>> Using liblouis version 2.6.5
>>> ERROR - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11):
>>> Error initializing display driver
>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>     File "braille.pyo", line 1447, in setDisplayByName
>>>     File "brailleDisplayDrivers\freedomScientific.pyo", line 179, in
>> __init__
>>> RuntimeError: No display found
>>> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11):
>>> Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
>>> INFO - brailleInput.initialize (18:52:11):
>>> Braille input initialized
>>> INFO - core.main (18:52:12):
>>> NVDA initialized
>>> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (19:30:34):
>>> Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
>>> INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (19:30:39):
>>> Base configuration saved
>>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:35):
>>> Core frozen in stack:
>>>     File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module>
>>>     File "core.pyo", line 382, in main
>>>     File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop
>>>     File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop
>>>     File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify
>>>     File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll
>>>     File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next
>>>     File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground
>>>     File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech
>>>     File
>>>
>> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__
>>
>> init__.py",
>>> line 117, in cancel
>>>     File
>>>
>> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e
>>
>> speak.py",
>>> line 224, in stop
>>>     File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop
>>>     File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire
>>>
>>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:50):
>>> Core frozen in stack:
>>>     File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module>
>>>     File "core.pyo", line 382, in main
>>>     File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop
>>>     File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop
>>>     File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify
>>>     File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll
>>>     File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next
>>>     File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground
>>>     File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech
>>>     File
>>>
>> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__
>>
>> init__.py",
>>> line 117, in cancel
>>>     File
>>>
>> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e
>>
>> speak.py",
>>> line 224, in stop
>>>     File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop
>>>     File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire
>>>
>>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:05):
>>> Core frozen in stack:
>>>     File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module>
>>>     File "core.pyo", line 382, in main
>>>     File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop
>>>     File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop
>>>     File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify
>>>     File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll
>>>     File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next
>>>     File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground
>>>     File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech
>>>     File
>>>
>> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__
>>
>> init__.py",
>>> line 117, in cancel
>>>     File
>>>
>> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e
>>
>> speak.py",
>>> line 224, in stop
>>>     File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop
>>>     File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire
>>>
>>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:20):
>>> Core frozen in stack:
>>>     File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module>
>>>     File "core.pyo", line 382, in main
>>>     File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop
>>>     File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop
>>>     File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify
>>>     File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll
>>>     File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next
>>>     File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground
>>>     File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech
>>>     File
>>>
>> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__
>>
>> init__.py",
>>> line 117, in cancel
>>>     File
>>>
>> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e
>>
>> speak.py",
>>> line 224, in stop
>>>     File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop
>>>     File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire
>>>
>>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:35):
>>> Core frozen in stack:
>>>     File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module>
>>>     File "core.pyo", line 382, in main
>>>     File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop
>>>     File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop
>>>     File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify
>>>     File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll
>>>     File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next
>>>     File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground
>>>     File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech
>>>     File
>>>
>> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__
>>
>> init__.py",
>>> line 117, in cancel
>>>     File
>>>
>> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e
>>
>> speak.py",
>>> line 224, in stop
>>>     File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop
>>>     File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire
>>>
>>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:50):
>>> Core frozen in stack:
>>>     File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module>
>>>     File "core.pyo", line 382, in main
>>>     File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop
>>>     File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop
>>>     File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify
>>>     File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll
>>>     File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next
>>>     File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground
>>>     File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech
>>>     File
>>>
>> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__
>>
>> init__.py",
>>> line 117, in cancel
>>>     File
>>>
>> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e
>>
>> speak.py",
>>> line 224, in stop
>>>     File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop
>>>     File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire
>>>
>>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:05):
>>> Core frozen in stack:
>>>     File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module>
>>>     File "core.pyo", line 382, in main
>>>     File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop
>>>     File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop
>>>     File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify
>>>     File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll
>>>     File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next
>>>     File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground
>>>     File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech
>>>     File
>>>
>> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__
>>
>> init__.py",
>>> line 117, in cancel
>>>     File
>>>
>> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e
>>
>> speak.py",
>>> line 224, in stop
>>>     File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop
>>>     File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire
>>>
>>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:20):
>>> Core frozen in stack:
>>>     File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module>
>>>     File "core.pyo", line 382, in main
>>>     File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop
>>>     File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop
>>>     File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify
>>>     File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll
>>>     File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__
>>>     File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next
>>>     File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground
>>>     File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech
>>>     File
>>>
>> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__
>>
>> init__.py",
>>> line 117, in cancel
>>>     File
>>>
>> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e
>>
>> speak.py",
>>> line 224, in stop
>>>     File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop
>>>     File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire
>>>
>>> INFO - core.onEndSession (23:54:04):
>>> Windows session ending
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/05/2016 7:29 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
>>>> If the master snapshots fixed it, does this mean the next release
>>>> (which
>>>> is hopefully coming sometime this month or next) will have the fix?
>>>> Because if so, I can just change the configuration so I have to
>>>> connect
>>>> it manually when I want to use it, which isn't a problem as I usually
>>>> have to re-activate the Braille settings if I have to disconnect the
>>>> display for one reason or another, or if the computer's put to
>>>> sleep. If
>>>> the fix is implemented next release, I'll adjust the configuration
>>>> again. If it does happen again despite this measure, I will try Gene's
>>>> method, although I suspect it will be fine. Thank you everyone for all
>>>> your help and tips, and at least I know how to retrieve old log
>>>> messages
>>>> now! :D
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/05/2016 7:02 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
>>>>> I don't think its malware, reading the thread it sounds like the
>>>>> braill table part of nvda and the master snapshots are supposed to
>>>>> have now fixed it. Its been a while since I had a computer with
>>>>> one of
>>>>> those displays. fartoo expensive for the low usage I have.
>>>>> Brian
>>>>>
>>>>> bglists@...
>>>>> Sent via blueyonder.
>>>>> Please address personal email to:-
>>>>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>>>>> in the display name field.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...>
>>>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 4:15 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi there: Do you think your computer could have mellwhere to
>>>>>> cause this
>>>>>> freezing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Rob [mailto:captinlogic@...]
>>>>>> Sent: May-01-16 6:31 PM
>>>>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>>>>>> Why wouldn't my workaround accomplish the same end but more easily.
>>>>>> Because most of the keyboard is frozen when this freeze happens. The
>>>>>> only
>>>>>> thing that works is the windows key and some function keys.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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