Re: Adjusting Microsoft voices (was RE: [nvda] Giving up on CodeFactory voices in NVDA)


Jonathan COHN
 

Is there perhaps a user specific location to place this ini file? Certainly in other OS there are both global and user specific setings files.

Also sure would be nice if there was a settings panel for adjusting these rather than the ini file.

Best Wishes,

Jonathan Cohn
gs panel for adjusting these rather than the ini file.

Best Wishes,

Jonathan Cohn


´╗┐On 2/19/18, 4:17 PM, "nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of JM Casey" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of crystallogic@ca.inter.net> wrote:

Hi Melissa.

Yes, you can use notepad to edit the file. It's not enough to run notepad as administrator, though, assuming you are using Windows 10 at least. You will have to grant yourself permission to change the file by taking ownership of it using the attributes in the properties dialog. To be honest, I don't 100% understand how ownership rites in Windows 10 function. I got it to work, but it took quite a bit of experimenting, which is the reason I was particularly annoyed by Microsoft changing it back again. Essentially, you want to grant yourself "full control" of this particular file, which means you have permission to edit it.

Where exactly the file is depends on what you are using....whether you are using an older SAPI voice or the newer Core1 voices? Each voice has its own ini. The file I edited was at this path location:
C:\Windows\Speech_OneCore\Engines\TTS\en-US
And as it's the David voice I've been using, the name is:
M1033David.INI


The lines you are looking ror are these two:
IntonationPhraseBoundary=
SentenceBoundary=

I do not remember what the original values were at the moment, but I believe it's in milliseconds or something. I altered the sentence boundary to 350 and that seems a lot better to me, though you may prefer less of a pause. Play around and see what you get and what you like.

If you get stuck with the file attributes thing, there are resources on the internet that can help you. Someone else on the list may understand this better than I do. It's one of those things which I thought I was familiar with, but trying to edit a Windows ini file showed me that in fact I'm still unclear on how this totally works. Still, at least I got it to do what I wanted it to.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Melissa Jean
Sent: February 19, 2018 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Giving up on CodeFactory voices in NVDA

This licensing process is one reason I haven't made this purchase. I'd love to be able to have something easy to work and not to worry about if it will stop working or not after I made some update.

I'd be interested in using David--the pauses are what turn me off from doing so though. I thought I remembered hearing updating the ini file before, but can't find the email though I saved it.

What is the file? Where is it found? Where is the line found to edit this?Can one use notepad to edit the file?
Sorry for the barrage of questions.

Thank you
On 2/19/18, JM Casey <crystallogic@ca.inter.net> wrote:
> I use David and I'm ok with him. Only thing is, I at least absolutely
> have to adjust the ini file that dictates how long he pauses between
> sentences, or even comma clauses. A two second wait after a period is
> completely intolerable from a speech synthesiser. Still, at least you can adjust it.
> Only, Microsoft, when doing Windows updates, has altered it back to
> original setting at least three times now, and I've had to change it
> back.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
> Rosemarie Chavarria
> Sent: February 19, 2018 12:14 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Giving up on CodeFactory voices in NVDA
>
> Hi, David,
>
> Microsoft David's pretty good. I like the Mark voice too.
>
> Rosemarie
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
> James Robinson
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 9:06 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Cc: blindtech@groups.io; win10@groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] Giving up on CodeFactory voices in NVDA
>
> Hello!
>
> You know, I have had it with this CodeFactory thing of deactivating
> constantly. I checked out one of the Microsoft voices they have in
> NVDA and this voice is not too bad; it is not as clear as Eloquence or
> the Vocalizer Expressive voices, but it is a little better than the
> standard NVDA voice in my opinion. I think CodeFactory could make
> this program permanent with NVDA as it is with other screen readers.
> They end up making the program far too much trouble to use in NVDA
> than it is worth. I'll just eat the cost because I don't expect them
> to do anything about the crazy requirements for using the voices.
> I'll thkink twice before I purchase such software in the future.
>
> Can we use any other Microsoft voices that windows offers? If so, how
> do we do it?
>
> James Robinson
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