Re: accessibility of other browsers for nvda users:


David Griffith
 

There is a suite  of accessible programs which are bundled with Webbie, and in this accessible suite is a PDF Reader.

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From: zahra
Sent: 21 February 2018 12:44
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessibility of other browsers for nvda users:

 

do you mean that webie supports pdf?

i thought webie is a browser like firefox. am i right?

 

On 2/21/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io

<bglists@...> wrote:

> With respect, this is an access issue for an nvda user.

>  If politics is the cause that is just how it is.I don't think anyone is

> making a political call, the only call to be made is is it legal, and that I

> have no idea about and is up to others in the jurisdiction concerned to find

> out about and act accordingly. My opinion.

>  I shall not be posting to this thread again in case it descends into an

> argument about an argument, which would be silly!

> Brian

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> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Pascal Lambert" <rambeau68@...>

> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 7:08 PM

> Subject: Re: [nvda] accessibility of other browsers for nvda users:

> Please refrain from making political or religious statements.  Otherwise,

> this assistive technology forum will quickly turn into a forum for polemics

> as I am sure there many who would disagree with you.

> Pascal

> -----Original Message-----

> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of zahra

> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:20 PM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda] accessibility of other browsers for nvda users:

> adobe reader version 11 supports xp.

> but due to sanctions against iran,

> there support for persian is no Good and i dont use the software that its

> producer said:

> the iranian should not download and use our product in any way.

> i think i should forget pdf and found a solution for my word and html

> files.

> since libreoffice and openoffice also are not very accessible, i think that

> i should convert all of my files to html and find one html editor!

> do you know one html editor which is accessible?

> On 2/20/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io

> <bglists@...> wrote:

>> Yes but won't run on xp and I do not know if it does Persian language.

>>  You would need adobe reader of an earlier time.

>>  Brian

>> 

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>> Sent via blueyonder.

>> Please address personal email to:-

>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'

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>> ----- Original Message -----

>> From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@...>

>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

>> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 2:11 AM

>> Subject: Re: [nvda] accessibility of other browsers for nvda users:

>> 

>> 

>>> Adobereader dc is free.

>>> 

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>>> 

>>> On 20/02/2018 4:29 a.m., zahra wrote:

>>>> adobe acrobat does not support persian very well, moreover, its not

>>>> free and for the sanctions against iran and reading license of

>>>> adobe, i realy dont trust this company!

>>>> 

>>>> On 2/19/18, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

>>>>> I haven't tried those versions of Chrome, but why not ask if such

>>>>> settings are available in Chrome?  I don't know if they are or not

>>>>> but they either may be or there may be another way to do what you

>>>>> want in Chrome.

>>>>> That's

>>>>> true for Firefox as well.  Also, I'm not sure what you want to do.

>>>>> You appear to want to be able to save multimedia files without them

>>>>> opening

>>>>> 

>>>>> in

>>>>> Chrome or Firefox.  As I said, there may be ways to do these things

>>>>> you don't know about in both browsers even if there are no

>>>>> settings.  I can't discuss multimedia files in part because I'm not

>>>>> sure just what kinds of files you are discussing and I may not have

>>>>> tried to save those filetypes..

>>>>> But in terms of files such as audio files like MP3s, in Firefox,

>>>>> once the file starts to play in the browser, you can save it by

>>>>> issuing the command control s, then using the save as dialog that

>>>>> opens.  I wouldn't be surprised if that is true in Chrome as well.

>>>>> 

>>>>> Please explain what you want to do in detail so people can address it.

>>>>> 

>>>>> You may want to live in the technological past indefinitely but you

>>>>> can't unless you want to be increasingly unable to do things you do

>>>>> now and limited in things you may want to do in future.

>>>>> 

>>>>> Gene

>>>>> ----- Original Message -----

>>>>> 

>>>>> From: zahra

>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 9:00 AM

>>>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

>>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] accessibility of other browsers for nvda users:

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>> i did not say that chrome is not accessible, reading web pages and

>>>>> for example gmail, is completely accessible and the quick

>>>>> navigation keys are like firefox.

>>>>> but its not very accessible for my need in customization and

>>>>> changing settings!

>>>>> in firefox is about:config

>>>>> which has thousands of options and i could easily set firefox

>>>>> according to my desire, i searched google and found hidden options

>>>>> in chrome.

>>>>> but could not find anything that wished to find!

>>>>> about automatic openning multimedia files, its not just happen on

>>>>> my system, even this feature is on by default and by the grace of

>>>>> God, i could find it in about:config if i could not find this

>>>>> option for my firefox, i kept firefox 25 forever without update!

>>>>> because this problem happened since firefox 26 that does not allow

>>>>> downloading multimedia files without changing settings in

>>>>> about:config by the way, did you try chromium and slimjet which i asked

>>>>> 

>>>>> about them?

>>>>> 

>>>>> On 2/19/18, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

>>>>>> Please don't assume that because you can't do something, that it

>>>>>> can't

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> be

>>>>>> done and that, if you don't fully understand an unfamiliar

>>>>>> interface, that it is inaccessible or can't be worked with.  As

>>>>>> far as updates are concerned, you can't avoid updates because

>>>>>> Chrome automatically updates.

>>>>>> But

>>>>>> that doesn't matter in your case.  You use XP and Google Chrome,

>>>>>> the browser, hasn't been updated for XP for perhaps almost a year.

>>>>>> In addition, the settings, or almost all of them, I haven't

>>>>>> checked every one, are accessible, or at least can be worked with.

>>>>>> You have to do certain things to be able to work with some of them

>>>>>> such as manually turn off and on browse mode.  The program isn't

>>>>>> as accessible as it should be but there is a difference between

>>>>>> accessibility and usability and a lot of programs are very usable,

>>>>>> even though not fully accessible.  Chrome is largely accessible

>>>>>> and is very usable, though not completely everything is.  But it's

>>>>>> usable enough so that almost everything desired can be done except

>>>>>> in the case of add ons which may not be accessible, but that's the

>>>>>> fault of the add on designer.

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> I'm going into all this mainly because your message may, if not

>>>>>> discussed, mslead others into believing Chrome is not usable and

>>>>>> is not reasonably accessible.  I don't particularly like the

>>>>>> interface but the program is reasonably accessible and quite

>>>>>> usable.

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> As far as playing audio files, Chrome does play audio.  I don't

>>>>>> know if it plays what you are trying to play.  I don't know what

>>>>>> you are having problems with but please don't state things as

>>>>>> though they are facts based on only your experience with an

>>>>>> unfamiliar program.  It's perfectly alright to say, I couldn't get

>>>>>> it to do this or that.  That doesn't mean it can't be done.

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> Gene

>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> From: zahra

>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 8:13 AM

>>>>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

>>>>>> Subject: [nvda] accessibility of other browsers for nvda users:

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> hello every one.

>>>>>> as my language is persian

>>>>>> and did not find and there is no one offline program for reading

>>>>>> pdf files in persian language except chrome, i decided to download

>>>>>> chrome.

>>>>>> i realy did not like it,

>>>>>> its less accessible than firefox in using settings.

>>>>>> i could not change it to not update automaticly, dont play audio

>>>>>> and video files which i want to download.

>>>>>> openning files after download etc.

>>>>>> so, i wished to try other browsers based on chrome like chromium

>>>>>> and slimjet.

>>>>>> did any of you test these browsers?

>>>>>> are they supported screen readers?

>>>>>> do they the problems that i mentioned for those, i dont like

>>>>>> chrome or not.

>>>>>> i appreciate any of your help, sincerely pray for you and God

>>>>>> bless you all!

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.

>>>>>> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.

>>>>>> in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:

>>>>>> indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of

>>>>>> salvation.

>>>>>> best website for studying islamic book in different languages

>>>>>> www.al-islam.org

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>> --

>>>>> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.

>>>>> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.

>>>>> in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:

>>>>> indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of

>>>>> salvation.

>>>>> best website for studying islamic book in different languages

>>>>> www.al-islam.org

>>>>> 

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> --

> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.

> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.

> in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:

> indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.

> best website for studying islamic book in different languages

> www.al-islam.org

>

 

 

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were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

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