Re: Braille support in Google Sheets with NVDA 2018.1 change release notes


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Yes everyone is playing catch up all the time, andI do not really like the Microsoft approach to redesigning everything. Its akin to the sys admins wanting to re install everything every three months just isn case it is corrupted.
I'd like to see a stable branch of windows guaranteed by security updates only for say, 10 years, and let the rest do their thing with new versions like the pastry cooks update or the palm tree growers update or whatever silly name they come up with next.
Brian

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From: "Shaun Everiss" <@smeveriss>
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Braille support in Google Sheets with NVDA 2018.1 change release notes


Games and other software have that to.

There is always that odd configuration that will not play ball without some tweaking.

Some of it is done by the manufacturer but thats only if the units are 5 years old or less or 3 or 4 years old or less eventually they stop caring, after that you pritty much need to buy another whatever or be on your own.

With win10 changing a lot every little while unless you can break the cycle and use generics for some things you pritty much need to be on your own.




On 10/03/2018 5:06 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I find it quite funny that there are RC builds out there much advertised here, and nobody spots problems, but due no doubt to Murphy's law, they all get noticed on the release version. Both in this case on brailed support by the looks of it.

You can't win really, can you? :-)

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Davy Cuppens" <davycuppens@...>
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Braille support in Google Sheets with NVDA 2018.1 change release notes


So please delete the sentence in the release notes about early support while users are reporting there is no support.
Otherwise users get wrong expectations.
Regards
Davy

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Op 9 mrt. 2018 om 09:56 heeft Sylvie Duchateau <sduchateau@...> het volgende geschreven:

Hello Quentin and all,
I have screen reader support enabled, braille support enabled in Google docs.
Unfortunately, I still cannot find any option in the Google Sheets settings, to enable Braille Support.
In their help section Google say:
"Turn on Braille support
1. Open a Docs file on your computer:
•Docs, Slides, or Drawings: Open the file in Google Chrome, Firefox, Safari, or Internet Explorer.
•Sheets: Braille support in Sheets is available on Chrome OS with the ChromeVox screen reader. Please make sure that you have the latest versions of Chrome OS and ChromeVox. We’re working to add support for other platforms and screen readers.
2. If you haven't already turned on screen reader support for the Docs editors, press Ctrl + Alt + z (Windows) or ⌘ + Option + z (Mac).
3. In the Accessibility menu, select Settings.
4. Select Enable Braille support.
If you turn Braille support on in Docs, Sheets, Slides, or Drawings, the setting applies whenever you sign in to any of these editors."
See: https://support.google.com/docs/answer/6057417?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&hl=en
On this page, https://venturebeat.com/2018/01/09/google-adds-braille-support-to-sheets-magnifier-tool-to-slides-and-drawings/
they say:
"Braille displays can already be used to read and edit texts in Docs, Slides, and Drawings. With the added support for Sheets, users will now be able to read and edit cell contents, as well as navigate between cells on a sheet. According to Google’s blog post, this will only be available on Chrome OS with the ChromeVox screen reader, for now. The company says it is working to add support for other platforms and screen readers."
So I thought that with this announcement on what's new in NVDA, the support would work, but it still does not here.
Thank you for any information you can find.
Best
Sylvie
Le 09/03/2018 à 06:16, Quentin Christensen a écrit :
Hi Sylvie,

I must admit I need to test this more myself, but reading: https://support.google.com/docs/answer/6057417?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&hl=en it indicates you need to enable screen reader support, and then enable braille support as well in Google sheets itself. It also gives a little info on using the routing keys on the display to navigate.

Let me know whether that does or doesn't help!

Quentin.

On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 3:22 AM, Sylvie Duchateau <sduchateau@...> wrote:
Hello Quentin and all,

Thanks for the good news on NVDA 2018.1.

While reading "what's new" in this version, I saw the following statement:

"Early support for Google Sheets with Braille mode enabled. (#7935)"

What does it mean?
I could not get Braille to work in Google Sheets with this new version.
Thank you for your response.

Best

Sylvie
Le 08/03/2018 à 06:23, Quentin Christensen a écrit :
Hi everyone,

The first release of #NVDASR for 2018 is finally here. Links to download and what's new in this release found at:

https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2018-1-now-available-for-download/

While downloading, please consider helping us to continue our work by making a single donation or becoming a monthly donor at http://nvaccess.org/donate

NVDA is empowering the blind across the world. Check out how in our recent video: https://youtu.be/Ks7AwV_uxO0
The first release of #NVDASR for 2018 is finally here. Links to download and what's new in this release found at:

https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2018-1-now-available-for-download/

While downloading, please consider helping us to continue our work by making a single donation or becoming a monthly donor at http://nvaccess.org/donate

NVDA is empowering the blind across the world. Check out how in our recent video: https://youtu.be/Ks7AwV_uxO0


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