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What we should not have to get use to or except is the
increasing lack of full accessability. Just telling somone to
just grow up and not offering them any help or any real sulutions
is just plain rude and is very uncalled for. No matter how
independent or well adjusted you are there will come a time when
you will not have someaccessability and you will feel quite
helpless and both blind and sighted people will tell you just grow
up and except change. How will you feel if one day yoou wake up
only to find that you have no more accessability because you did
not advocate for it. If we want to be first members of our
society like nfb says then we do need to have full accessability
it's true that we do live in a sighted world but they do need to
have more accessability because not everything can always be
adapted for us there is a point when work arrounds just don't work
or they are not very efficient. We should not just except what
ever crums of token accessability the sighted chose to give us we
do want to live in the real world and to be as independent as we
can be but it's getting harder to do this. What will happen in 5
or 10 years from now will we be like the blind were back in the
1800's having almost independence or real accessability what goes
arrounds comes arround. I hope that when this does happen I hope
that you are happy because you will get what you deserve. maybe
you like always being left behind and if you don't advocate for
accessability you won't have just saying that everything is fine I
AM not having any problems that is a lie and you need to get your
head out of the sand. This is not the future I want but it is the
future we will all have all because the blind community will just
not advocate for accessability if they do it's only a very small
of them and they don't keep the preasure on they just go away when
they get told no. I have been blind since birth and our future
does not look very good when it comes to full accessability. Both
acb and nfb are totally usless in this area they are doing nothing
about it. Why do other people with other disabilties have more
accessability because they advocate for it and they did not give
up. Think of the deaf community and the wheelchair comminity they
have so much more accessability then the blind have. I do admire
them for this and it should be a lesson for us. We have changes
forced up us on not for the better and we are just soposted to
just accept it and shut up well not me and who is with me? either
you want to be a member of the society that is sighted or you
On 2/16/2018 12:43 PM, Rosemarie
right that no employer would put up with whining and
complaining from any employee whether blind or sighted.
They'd be fired right on the spot! I don't know why some
people are afraid of change. As I always say, it's time to
get a life. Like the old saying goes, shape up or ship out.
do agree with a few things here.
blind or not, have to get used to change, whether we
like it or not.
we had a job, and they upgraded there systems, do you
think whining and complaining would get you anywhere?
it would get you fired.
have to get with the times, it is just how life is.
Friday, February 16, 2018 7:40 AM
Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7
have to break it to you gently as a good favorite
country song of mine is called. You are going to have
to upgrade to WIN 10 32 or 64 bit in the future. I
don’t think its cute that other blind people etc. are
putting up Skype V 7.x on Dropbox etc. Folks get a
life and get a grip. This version of Skype will die
and you must move forward like or lump it. Yeah MS
didn’t ask us about how we feel about this and they
never will. And for the record this tread is getting
old like sour milk. So with that being said put up or
shut up and send feedback to MS to make the current
iderations of Skype on all platforms accessible. Peace
out and I’m done. Grow up folks!
I've been reading this thread about the phasing out of
Skype 7, which is already getting quite long, with
interest, as I've been using Skype for nearly ten year
snow, and I don't want to give up on it if I don't
absolutely have to.
As I write this, Skype 7.40 still works on my 64-bit
Windows 7 PC, but, judging from what I've read lately,
it is hard to guess how much longer Skype 7 will still
exist. Some people say Skype 7's days are numbered,
others say there has been a glitch which caused
problems with Skype 7 and made it impossible for some
of its users to log in for a while, but I'm not
totally sure which to believe: both might be true, for
all I know.
It's great that there are accessible alternatives to
Skype out there, and that Windows 10 users also have
the option of using Skype UWP, the Skype version from
the Windows Store. But what will the rest of us NVDA
users do, those who don't have Windows 10 and want to
stick with Skype for whatever reason, when Skype 7 no
longer works? That is bound to happen one day.
I'm sad to say I have not yet heard any word from the
NVDA developers about any work on Skype 8 to make it
more accessible with NVDA in the future. Will future
versions of NVDA support Skype 8 without the need for
add-ons, or is there the possibility of an add-on
being produced for Skype 8 to help us until the stable
version of NVDA fully supports the new Skype for
If there are any developers reading this who can
answer the above questions, or tell us anything else
about the current situation where Skype 8 and NVDA are
concerned, I'm sure I am not the only one who would be
happy to hear from them on this list.
Thanks in advance for any answers to my questions,
whatever they say.
Bye for now!
From: firstname.lastname@example.org [mailto:email@example.com]
On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: vendredi 16 février 2018 06:04
Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7
This is the link I got from the net
Weather this is the latest version is unknown though.
filehipo has a version of skype classic to.
I have backups on my dropbox which is fine however if
I share my links dropbox is only a free account.
On 16/02/2018 5:52 p.m., inamuddinInam Uddin via
> Dear friend, can you share the link for us?
> As far as my self is concern, only ninite does
have Skype classic!
> With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
> Arguing with a woman is reading software license
> At the end, you have to ignore everything and
clic I agree.
> You can contact me via gmail:
> Add my Skype ID:
> Meet me on facebook:
> Follow me on my twitter ID:
> Call me on my cell numbers:
> From: Shaun Everiss
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 8:38 AM
> To: firstname.lastname@example.org
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7
> Well if they would improve skype 8 to be more
accessible or improve
> skype app so that some of the good features of
skype 7 are ported over
> thats all we ask.
> Now it does appear that the download links for
skype classic have
> changed, I have found 1 link to get skype
classic, but to be honest,
> its really not skype classic users want, I don't
really want skype
> classic, I just want to use the latest skype in
an accessible way.
> Hmmm, there is a thought I wander if I was a
skype insider, I wander
> if that would change things some.
> On 16/02/2018 2:14 p.m., inamuddinInam Uddin via
>> Dear friends, the matter of fact is that I
did talk with the team of Skype support and I
expressed all of my concerns regarding accessibility
and screen reader related things and He told me that
Microsoft is not forcing people to use modern Skype as
long as they will remove all of our concerns.
>> Further more He said that we can use Skype
classic as long as that version is installed in our
>> He said that if anyone of you is facing any
kind of problem using Skype classic, feel free to
contact Skype support and they will always be reading
to fix the issue whatever you people have regarding
the use of Skype classic.
>> That’s what the result of conversation
between me and Skype support team but as far as my
opinion is concern, Microsoft is secretly forcing us
to switch over from Skype classic to either Skype 8
for those who are using less than windows 10 or Skype
app for windows 10 for those who are using windows 10.
>> To my best knowledge if we all screen reader
users regardless of what screen reader we are using
continue to connect to Microsoft disability answer
desk and with the help of them if we continue to
connect to Skype support team and if we continue to
voice our concern, at the end of the day our concerns
will be heard and will be removed as well!
>> There is a need of unity among users of
screen reader users.
>> It is not the time to argue a screen reader
against a screen reader that which one is better, it
is the time to show solidarity and unity of visually
challenged people to Microsoft in order to rescue
Skype from dying!
>> With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype
>> Arguing with a woman is reading software
>> At the end, you have to ignore everything and
clic I agree.
>> You can contact me via gmail:
>> Add my Skype ID:
>> Meet me on facebook:
>> Follow me on my twitter ID:
>> Call me on my cell numbers:
>> From: Shaun Everiss
>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 4:26 AM
>> To: email@example.com
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7
>> What bar skype chatting services are usefull
on pc that my family can
>> use, can google hangouts work for pc, or
>> I have 1 friend on zello but I havn't really
>> Everyone I know have whats app skype or
facetime but well for me
>> skype is used a lot and the family well.
>> When is skype to not nolonger be supported as
a valid version of skype?
>> If it goes I guess I will have to try to use
8 and the universal app.
>> On 16/02/2018 4:23 a.m., Michael Capelle
>>> I don’t blame you, now with facetime,
google hangouts, etc, skype really has died.
>>> From: Damien Garwood
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 9:22 AM
>>> To: firstname.lastname@example.org
>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7
>>> I’ll be abandoning Skype when 7 dies as
well. I’ve had a mess with 8, and as far as I’m
concerned, it stinks.
>>> It’s a shame though. While I also have a
TeamTalk server, and while the quality is indeed a lot
better, TeamTalk is meant, A, for teams, and B, not
for telephony. To use TeamTalk as a substitute for
Skype would be a pain, since someone would first have
to contact you by other means to ask you to come on
TT, something which obviously isn’t necessary with
>>> Not only that, but perhaps the biggest
issue is that Skype was my primary telephone.
>>> So yeah. Going Skypeless will indeed take
a lot of getting used to.
>>> I can’t ever see me going back to Skype.
Crashes, accessibility shortfalls and process hogging
are only the primary issues. And there’s me thinking
Skype could never be any slower and broken than it
already was in 7.
>>> From: Michael Capelle
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 2:17 PM
>>> To: email@example.com
>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Phasing out of 7
>>> i agree, i only use team talk, as i have
my own server, and the quality is much better.
>>> e-mail me off list if you wish to join my
>>> From: Robert Kingett
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 8:15 AM
>>> To: firstname.lastname@example.org
>>> Subject: [nvda] Phasing out of 7
>>> The below page from Doug lee explains the
phasing out of Skype 7 in favor of Skype 8 or the
Universal App on windows 10. I have no idea what you
folks on XP will do, but I stopped using Skype in
favor of team talk anyway.