It is slightly odd as I have identical
Windows version and NVDA with latest Essentials Addon. Despite
this I am completely unable to reproduce your Outlook problem
with the start menu and the application key.
If I start typing Outlook and then bring up
the application key, the context menus all read entirely
normally.
This seems to suggest that there may be
something local to your setup causing this.
I am using Eloquence synth derived from my
old Kurzweil installation but I am not sure if this should
make any difference.
I never attempt to rearrange the Desktop so
I cannot comment on the second issue you raise.
David Griffith
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Hey there guys.
I’m experiencing a few
things with NVDA 2018.1.
Firstly, my build of
Windows:
Version 1709 (OS Build
16299.192)
Two things. Firstly,
when I open the start menu and then search for something,
say, for example, I do a search for outlook. I then hear
Outlook 2016 Desktop app, which is normal, but then here’s
where the kind of strange thing is coming into play.
If I press either
shift+F10 or my application’s key to open up the context
menu on sed item, As I then down arrow through the context
menu, I’m continuously with each press of the down arrow key
hearing the first syllable of the word outlook.
So for example, instead
of hearing pin to taskbar, I’d hear, out pin to taskbar.
Only it’s not even the word out. It’s more like ow. The t
phoneme gets cut off entirely. So, realisticly, it’s more
like, alpin to taskbar. Ow open. Etc. Why in the world is it
doing this? Just for reference, I don’t have this problem
with JAWS 2018, so clearly, this appears from what little
knowledge I know, to be an NVDA thing specifically. Now,
whether this is a falt of NVDA in a whole, or a falt of the
Windows 10 Essentials addon, I’m not sure. It might even be
a combination of both. I just don’t know.
The other thing I am
observing which really would be nice is, I’ve tried using
alt+shift+arrow keys on my start screen to move my pinned
tiles around and rearrange them. Though this works
absolutely beautifully by the way, I find that it’s a little
bit confusing as though I hear the row/column coordinants
when arrowing around, and also can hear the group headers,
it’s hard for one to know what row/column of a particular
group header certain tiles are being moved into when using
alt+shift+arrows, as NVDA won’t announce this information as
you’re moving. Therefore, you have to kind of mentally in
your head keep things mathematicly straight. For instance,
if I’m on the second header group on a row, and in that
group the tile is one row by one column big, and I know I
want that item in the first columm first row of the first
header group on that row, if the icon initially is in row 2
collumn 2, then I know I need to move it up one row with
alt+shift+up arrow, then to get to that first group in row 1
collumn 1, I’d have to then alt+left arrow 7 times. The
first press to go to column 1 of that same group, the next
to scoach it over to the previous left hand group’s collum
6, then 5 more times to get it over to column 1.
Hopefully, I’ve not just
made your heads explode trying to think through that. You
see though my point. This is very difficult, at best, as you
really don’t have any feedback from NVDA as you’re moving
the icon around. So one may have to move the tile a few
places, then check, and see what group/coordinants within
that group the tile is now located, then either continue, or
compensate for their miscounting calculation. It can be
done, but it’s a major pain in the arse.
This leads me to a
proposal. How hard would it be either natively in NVDA, or
within the Win10 Essentials addon to get it so that NVDA,
while moving the tyle, to read the coordinants as it does
just by arrowing around? I think this would be great for
users, as being able to rearrange those items has really
sped up my workflow.
Chris.
