Hey there guys.
I’m experiencing a few things with NVDA
2018.1.
Firstly, my build of Windows:
Version 1709 (OS Build 16299.192)
Two things. Firstly, when I open the start
menu and then search for something, say, for example, I do a
search for outlook. I then hear Outlook 2016 Desktop app,
which is normal, but then here’s where the kind of strange
thing is coming into play.
If I press either shift+F10 or my
application’s key to open up the context menu on sed item, As
I then down arrow through the context menu, I’m continuously
with each press of the down arrow key hearing the first
syllable of the word outlook.
So for example, instead of hearing pin to
taskbar, I’d hear, out pin to taskbar. Only it’s not even the
word out. It’s more like ow. The t phoneme gets cut off
entirely. So, realisticly, it’s more like, alpin to taskbar.
Ow open. Etc. Why in the world is it doing this? Just for
reference, I don’t have this problem with JAWS 2018, so
clearly, this appears from what little knowledge I know, to be
an NVDA thing specifically. Now, whether this is a falt of
NVDA in a whole, or a falt of the Windows 10 Essentials addon,
I’m not sure. It might even be a combination of both. I just
don’t know.
The other thing I am observing which really
would be nice is, I’ve tried using alt+shift+arrow keys on my
start screen to move my pinned tiles around and rearrange
them. Though this works absolutely beautifully by the way, I
find that it’s a little bit confusing as though I hear the
row/column coordinants when arrowing around, and also can hear
the group headers, it’s hard for one to know what row/column
of a particular group header certain tiles are being moved
into when using alt+shift+arrows, as NVDA won’t announce this
information as you’re moving. Therefore, you have to kind of
mentally in your head keep things mathematicly straight. For
instance, if I’m on the second header group on a row, and in
that group the tile is one row by one column big, and I know I
want that item in the first columm first row of the first
header group on that row, if the icon initially is in row 2
collumn 2, then I know I need to move it up one row with
alt+shift+up arrow, then to get to that first group in row 1
collumn 1, I’d have to then alt+left arrow 7 times. The first
press to go to column 1 of that same group, the next to scoach
it over to the previous left hand group’s collum 6, then 5
more times to get it over to column 1.
Hopefully, I’ve not just made your heads
explode trying to think through that. You see though my point.
This is very difficult, at best, as you really don’t have any
feedback from NVDA as you’re moving the icon around. So one
may have to move the tile a few places, then check, and see
what group/coordinants within that group the tile is now
located, then either continue, or compensate for their
miscounting calculation. It can be done, but it’s a major pain
in the arse.
This leads me to a proposal. How hard would
it be either natively in NVDA, or within the Win10 Essentials
addon to get it so that NVDA, while moving the tyle, to read
the coordinants as it does just by arrowing around? I think
this would be great for users, as being able to rearrange
those items has really sped up my workflow.
Chris.
