The add on you were sent is the illegal add on
which uses the same inferior implementation as JAWS does. I don't use it
but I've heard it.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I take it there have been no improvements to the
flawed espeak ng in 2017.4?
I'll admit I've not heard Eloquence outside of Jaws and the addon I was sent
some years back. I didn't know the version in Jaws was different to Eloquence on
its own. The one in the addon I have doesn't pause very long between sentences.
Also, I just do not like to speed up my synth too much. I still think of how
some of you can listen to something at the highest rate possible and understand
it. I've tried increasing it a little, but it's just not enjoyable for
me.
That said, I'm now very used to Espeak, and it may not be an improvement over
Eloquence in the opinion of some, but it was definitely an improvement over
Microsoft Anna, which was what I had been stuck with via Narrator until I
discovered NVDA. Espeak is the voice of NVDA to me now, and other synths fall
short in many ways.
On 26/03/2018 7:20 PM, Gene wrote:
You wrote:
I don't like Eloquence because it isn't as crisp as Espeak. I
have compared
it to A.M radio in the past, and Espeak to FM/CD Quality
sound.
That is a very inaccurate
comparison. E-Speak has more high end in the s sounds and the voice may
have a little more high end but hardly comparable to FM radio or CD quality
sound. and why is the difference of perhaps two thousand or three
thousand KHZ, by my estimate, from, let's say, around 7000KHZ in Eloquence to
about nine hundred or one thousand KHZ in E-Speak of any real
importance? I would imagine you talk on the phone without worrying about
such things.
Eloquence has much better
understandability of speech at higher speeds, and pronounces a lot more words
correctly.
Also, I don't know if you are talking
about Eloquence as modified by the producers of JAWS or Eloquence, as it is
unmodified. The JAWS designers customized it. If you are saying it
isn't crisp because you are thinking of JAWS Eloquence, that's not an accurate
representation of what unmodified Eloquence sounds like. Also, the JAWS
modifiers took out pauses at periods. That seriously degrades reading,
that the modified version doesn't pause at periods.
You may be pleasantly surprised if
you try the demo of the HTML version. If you haven't heard unmodified
Eloquence, you don't know what it really sounds like.
Gene
