----- Original Message -----
From: "Jiří Fenz" <jirifenz@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] announcing end of lines in Scite editor


>I think that it's only about gui element behaviour.
>
> Announcing empty instead of New line is the same regardless on lf, cr or
> crlf end of line.
>
> So i think that solving this is about advanced configuration of Scite to
> change how the eol symbol is viewed or forcing autoit to recognize that
> actual symbol as standart new line.
>
> Here is link for portable version of Scite i'm using, if someone want to
> try it directly.
>
> https://www.autoitscript.com/cgi-bin/getfile.pl?../autoit3/scite/download/SciTE4AutoIt3_Portable.zip
>
> Jiri Fenz
>
>
>
> Dne 06.04.2018 v 10:56 Shaun Everiss napsal(a):
>> Well it depends I guess you have to look in the editer options it
>> would have to do with how the symbon is rendered for nvda to read.
>>
>> Simplest way would be if there was a dictenary for that program if you
>> can have a spaciffic definition for a particular program I am not sure
>> if thats possible, but you could define the word empty to end of line
>> or do it for the global deffinition and when anything is empty it will
>> be end of line instead.
>>
>> Thats not going to really work that well.
>>
>> We need to find what that symbol actually is that is generated.
>>
>> Is it generating the standard carrage return or linefead, cr/lf symbol
>> for example.
>>
>> crlf symbols usually at least when I did communications and things
>> back in dos usually mean, new line, line end, end of line or simply an
>> empty space depending on the os, unix/linux, windows or dos.
>>
>> In these days, windows/dos has almost the same charset with windows
>> having more of them and linux has a few more.
>>
>> However depending what this thing was developed for, ie unix that
>> could explain the issue you are having, things are translated that
>> symbol may not be translated as such so there may be that issue to
>> worry about.
>>
>> Ofcause if you can get a document with just that symbon in it and send
>> it at whoever handles the symbol database then it should be ok.
>>
>> What happens if you create a document with a few new lines or line
>> breaks in them and view it in another text editor.
>>
>> Ie notepad, if the symbol is still empty, then its a symbol issue but
>> if the symbol is read correctly, it could simbly be what the editor is
>> outputting to be translated in which case not much we can do.
>>
>> If the symbol from scyte you get in notepad back is just utter crap
>> then it could be an untranslated symbol probably from unix or something.
>>
>> The next thing to do is send it back here and get someone to find out
>> what that symbol comes from, latx for example has different symbols to
>> text and other programs may have different symbols based on age to a
>> point, etc.
>>
>> So if you find that out then the symbol can be added and your issue is
>> solved.
>>
>> What I fear is that its just what the program outputs at nvda in which
>> case nothing can be done really.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/04/2018 8:45 p.m., Jiří Fenz wrote:
>>> Helllo all,
>>>
>>> i'm using Scite for coding in Autoit.
>>>
>>> Accessibility of thys program is almost total, but when moving with
>>> right or left arrow betveen lines, nvda says Empty instead of New line.
>>>
>>> Is here some option to set classic End of line character in scite to
>>> make it announce new line the same way as for example in notepad?
>>>
>>> With best regards
>>>
>>> Jiri Fenz
>>>
>>>
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