Same with me exactly. It says it when I close a program, but stops with alt tab. It's a bit annoying, but not a major issue. I'm glad also to see though that it's not just some random weird thing on my computer.
On Apr 7, 2018 2:10 PM, "Annette Moore" < angelgirl52376@...> wrote:
I get that unknown thing as well, but I just alt tab and it's
gone. I haven't come to the list with it, though, because it's not
causing me any problems, and it does go away once I alt tab, and
when I maximize the window, it either shows the desktop or another
program I'm in, so I don't think it's really anything to worry
about. I'd only worry if it was saying "Unknown," within a program
and being completely disruptive to whatever I'm doing. It's not
doing that, though, so it really doesn't worry me. It's good to
know, however, that others are seeing it; good to know it's not
just my computer being weird or something.
Annette
On 4/6/2018 3:51 PM, Gene wrote:
In my experience, exiting programs often doesn't take you to
the desktop. Others may wish to comment. it's possible that,
for somereason, a window is present that isn't visible to the
screen-reader. This window may be the result of a program
running in the background. Have you installed any programs or
updated anything around the time the problem started? Unless
you think you have malware or have some other problem, this may
well be just a change caused by something, a new program, some
sort of update, something that means nothing other than that
maybe a window is being displayed that makes you not return to
the desktop as often as you expect.
You may be hearing unknown because a window, not recognized
by NVDA is getting focus. You may get the answer most easily by
having a sighted person see what's on screen when you close a
program.
While this may indicate a problem such as malware, it may
indicate nothing except a change in something that affects
screen-readers but doesn't affect anything from a sighted users'
perspective.
Others may have other comments and suggestions.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still say unknown
I'm talking about exiting programs. I
know how to get to the desktop with alt f-4 or windows D but
in the past when I've exited programs, I was taken back to
the desktop.
What are you referring to? You
said alt f4 to get to the desktop. Alt f4 closes
programs. It doesn't take you to the desktop. It often
leaves you nowhere. You have to use the usual Windows key
d and Windows key m to move to the desktop. What exactly
is the problem? You said you hear unknown. What do you
do after that and what happens?
----- Original Message -----
Sent:
Friday, April 06, 2018 3:29 PM
Subject:
Re: [nvda] NVDA still say unknown
Hi, Gene,
I'm trying narrator right now. I'll
see what happens when I hit alt f-4 to get to the desktop.
Rosemarie
Yesterday, your message appeared to
indicate that you can carry out the action by issuing the
command twice, as in issuing alt f4 twice. Is that
correct?
Have you determined if this is an
NVDA problem? Have you tried the same commands in the
same contexts using Narrator or JAWS? Is there a need to
issue them twice? Also, have you tried an earlier version
of NVDA that used to work correctly? What happens?
Just having to issue a command
twice is a very easy work around. If that's all that is
necessary, this may be one of those small problems where
there is a very easy work around and the time and effort
involved to try to solve them isn't worth expending. Not
every problem needs to be solved.
----- Original Message -----
Sent:
Friday, April 06, 2018 1:58 PM
Subject:
Re: [nvda] NVDA still say unknown
Hi, Gene,
I tried waiting for 10 seconds and
nothing happened. I don't know what else to try.
Rosemarie
Is this a problem that means
anything or is it just something being spoken that means
nothing? When you hear unknown, if you just do nothing
for a number of seconds, does what you expect to happen
happen?
NVDA often says unknown and then,
when you wait for a brief time, whatever is supposed to
happen happens. Have you tested to see what happens?
When you hear unknown, wait ten seconds to see if whatever
is supposed to happen happens. Yesterday, you said
something about having to issue a program close command
twice. What we don't know is if the second time is doing
anything. If you just wait many seconds and don't do
anything, you may find that what you expect to happen
happens. Part of being a good blind computer user is to
know what matters and what doesn't. So far, we don't know
if this matters or is just irrelevant speech.
There may be nothing to be done at
this time except to ignore it.
----- Original Message -----
Sent:
Friday, April 06, 2018 1:05 PM
Subject:
[nvda] NVDA still say unknown
Hi, everyone,
I just updated to the latest add-on but
that didn't help at all. I don't know what else to try. Any
suggestions will be very much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Rosemarie
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