Re: Say All and NVDA


 

This is happening with eSpeak NG. I switched my say all profile to use one of the Windows 10 OneCore voices, so it's not happening now.


On 4/22/2018 9:51 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Lanie,

Yes, I understand you. I haven't managed to reproduce it, but at least I know what you are doing?  Did I ask, which synthesizer did it happen with?

On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 12:39 PM, Lanie Molinar <laniemolinar91@...> wrote:

Yes. I created a configuration profile just for say all. You can select say all as a trigger for a profile. When I left it alone so it had the same synthesizer as my normal configuration but a different rate, it changed the rate of my normal configuration whenever I used it. I changed the synthesizer for that profile, and it no longer affects my normal configuration. I hope this clears things up a little.


On 4/22/2018 7:17 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
When you note that Say All is not changing the rate of the normal configuration is that because you are using a different synth?  At first reading of your last post I just wondered if you meant the issue occurred if you were using say all inside an app which had its own triggered profile rather than the default configuration.

On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 11:17 PM, Lanie Molinar <laniemolinar91@...> wrote:

I tried it again without changing the synthesizer and had the same problem I mentioned. I also tried changing the synthesizer, and that seems to work better. I'm not getting the problem with say all changing the normal configuration rate now, so I guess I'll keep using a different one for say all for now. I'm using Windows 10 OneCore with Mark as the voice for say all, and it seems to work well.


On 4/19/2018 11:40 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
I haven't noticed this myself, but I've changed the speed of my Say all now (and not the synthesizer for now) and I'll be on the lookout for it.

I expect you are familiar enough with configuration profiles to be doing it correctly, but just to be sure, how you should adjust the "Say all" profile:

1. Open the config profiles dialog (NVDA+control+p or via the menu)
2. Select the "say all" profile and activate the "Manually activate" button.
3. Make whatever changes you want (eg slow the speech rate down).
4. Open the config profiles dialog again.
5. Ensure "Say all" is still selected and activate the "Manually deactivate" button.

Otherwise, does changing the synthesizer used in Say All help?

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 8:15 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
I found that a different synth was the answer to this sort of thing. I'm not sure but I think also something that is looked at for a profile is sometimes also true at other times, making profiles for speech a a bit hit and miss at times. I can say no more than that, but I had this just with a basic text reader so I doubt its just kindle.
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Subject: [nvda] Say All and NVDA


HI, everyone. I have a couple questions and was wondering if anyone could help. I have the latest Next snapshot of NVDA and Windows 10 Insider build 17134, but what I'm asking about has been an issue for a long time. I often read books on my laptop with Kindle for PC, especially if I can't find an audio version somewhere Else. I use eSpeak NG and have it set really fast for most things, but when I'm reading, I like to slow it down. A lot of times, I've tried to automatically do this by creating a configuration profile for NVDA's say all feature that slows the speech rate down when I press the say all command. I've pretty much stopped doing this, though, because using that profile somehow seems to change the speech rate for my normal configuration, which is really annoying. I believe I had the same issue when I created a configuration profile that slowed speech when I used the Kindle app. Has anyone else noticed this? Is there a way to fix or get around it? Would changing the synthesizer for that particular profile help? I'm not sure what synthesizer would be free or cheap and good for reading, but I would be willing to try different ones out if that would fix this problem. Thanks.











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