Just open the extensions page, and type just read in the
search and enter on the first one in the list of choices. It works as well as
the one for Firefox!
Hi all!
I have been telling people just
how great Chrome is for two and a half years.
I am so happy that all of you
are finding it to be true.
If anyone needs my text tutorial
I wrote on how to use Chrome, and take you through all settings, I will paste
it on the list.
I have done this around ten
times on all the lists, but you are still finding out for the first time, just
how great Chrome is.
Just read works great for just
reading an article on the page.
CTRL+J allows you to hear the
status of the downloads. Now, CTRL+Shift+O allows you to open the bookmarks
manager, and you can arrange them in different folders and back them
up.
Chrome is great with Youtube,
and streaming media. Chrome is good for a lot other than just simple
browsing.
Have a great one, and I am
celebrating that you are finally getting used to Chrome!
David
Moore
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Re: [nvda] I've largely changed my mind about Chrome, I like it muchmore
now
I use the add on called sound on
for navigational sounds.
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Would anyone know if Chrome has
sounds? one of the annoyances with current firefox is figuring out when
downloads are finished or when a page is refreshing itself, ie you normally
hear the ticks in the old version due to navigational
sounds.
Until i find a browser with this
function of sound I'm loathe to get a new browser over ff52, but the problem
is that I've been reading that some sites now do not support the old versions
of Firefox and tell you so when you have things like modal windows whatever
they are.
On XP to make Firefox perform
even reasonably you need to use a version 45, as after this the actual load up
times are hugely slowed, my guess is that the code is made for multi
processor devices, not single core ones.This is also why on xp you might
find that Chrome and firefox are similar in page loading
times.
Things are no pushing ahead so
fast on sites that its not uncommon to see the message you browser is
unsupported get this or that then you can come back.
To me this is a weird thing for
commercial sites to do, as they are, in effect pushing away potential
customers, but hey, that is their business.
Brian
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Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2018 10:57
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Subject: [nvda] I've largely
changed my mind about Chrome, I like it much more now
I may have sent messages in the
past in which I expressed a much stronger liking for Firefox than
Chrome. At this point, I've changed my mind and, unless things change
over time, as they may as Firefox continues to implement its new internal
technical changes, I consider Chrome to be superior for general browsing. I
haven't tested it for uses such as streaming or RSS or other uses. I
will therefore only address general browsing and the interface. Others
may want to comment on other aspects I haven't compared.
This is a long message, a bit of
a review and a bit of discussion of the interface. I hope those
interested in the subject find it useful.
If you try Chrome and find it
superior for general browsing, you may still not want to use Chrome as your
main browser. There are various considerations. I'll explain why I
changed my mind and what you may want to consider. You may have other or
different considerations as well.
The reason I say Chrome is
better for general browsing is because it loads pages faster than
Firefox. You may want to compare and see if the difference is important
to you. There is a very noticeable difference. I hadn't compared
Chrome with Firefox for speed on a fast machine. I compared them on a
slow machine running XP perhaps six or eight months ago. I had expected
that, if Chrome was faster, there would have been a noticeable difference,
even though the machine was slow. But there wasn't a difference that
amounted to anything.
I recently decided to compare on
a reasonably fast machine running Windows 7 since many people have said on
lists I'm on that Chrome is faster. There is a very noticeable
difference in speed on my Windows 7 machine. I don't know what the
results would have been on a fast XP machine.
I haven't used Chrome much but
the increase in speed is the reason I say it's better for general
browsing.
The Chrome interface is
different than Firefox or Internet Explorer. It isn't difficult to learn
but it is different. You will likely want a tutorial or some
instructional material. If you are good at learning by exploring, you
may not want or need such material, at least not to use in depth, but you may
benefit in early learning by using material.
The main things to know in terms
of the differences in the interface are that Chrome shows many things as web
pages, such as settings and history and there is one menu, which you can open
with alt f, that is, hold alt and press f. Of course, there are submenus
and there are also items that open like web pages such as
settings.
I don't recall if there are
classic dialogs that open from the main menu.
But if you work with settings,
you need to know that the settings interface doesn't work quite properly in
the following way:
It's a web page-like interface
but there some controls that don't work as they should. I tried to
activate two buttons today and I couldn't do so in browse mode using
NVDA. I don't know what JAWS does. I had to manually go into forms
mode, and activate the buttons. I may have had to tab to the button
because forms mode may not have been properly calibrated with browse mode in
that interface, at least at times.
I seem to recall that in another
instance, I needed to be in browse mode to activate something but I'd have to
experiment more to know if that is the case since I don't have a clear memory
of whether that was necessary.
There's a very useful settings
search feature in settings.
One of my main objections to
Chrome in the past was that the book marks interface is not nearly as
comvenient to work with as Firefox because the search feature in Chrome book
marks appears to be inaccessible. I very recently learned from someone
on a list I follow that this problem can be more or less eliminated. I
say more or less because I haven't played with it much, but enough to see that
it works well or reasonably well. I'm hedging because I'd want to play
with it more before saying just how well it works. It' appears to work
well from the very little testing I've done. If you are in the address
bar, you can type some or all of what you want to find such as york times or
new york times and you can up and down arrow through results. Some of
them will be search results using a search engine but the top results in the
list should be from book marks and history. Try reading the current line
after typing to see if that contains the first result. I haven't played
with the feature more than a little and I'm not sure. But if it works
well, this would eliminate what I consider to be an important deficiency. In
other words, this feature may make book marks just as easy to use in Chrome as
in Firefox.
If you use Firefox extensions
that you consider important and use them a lot, that may be a consideration in
which browser you want to use. and then, there's just convenience of not
learning a new interface and continuing to use the familiar Firefox.
You, of course, can determine questions like that. It's nice to have
pages load a good deal faster, but the importance of speed may vary from user
to user. But if you haven't compared with a hands on test, you may wish
to.
Browsing is either identical or
nearly identical between the browsers because they both use browse mode, or
the Virtual PC cursor, which is the JAWS name for the same
thing.
So you can compare by installing
Chrome, and then opening and using some web sites. Control l moves you
to the address bar, just as in Firefox. I believe when you open Chrome,
you are automatically placed on the address bar, but you can check. If
you want to make sure, it takes almost no time to execute control
l.
I hope those who are interested
in this subject find these comments useful.
If people are curious or
dissatisfied with Firefox or another browser, they may want to try
Chrome. I haven't used Edge at all so I don't know how Edge
compares.
Gene
