Re: NVDA and CCleaner (free, anyway)

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Actually I'm not quite sure which parts people are talking about here. I seem to still be able to use the tools part successfully here on the latest version on windows 7.
A bit of tabbing about certainly, but since maybe you are talking about something I know nothing of, a bit more clarity is needed.
The company I understand is now part of the Avast empire and one of the most deliberately annoying things about downloading and installing it is that whereas before it had a checkbox to allow avast to be installed, it now uses inaccessible yes no buttons that bypass very easily set to yes.
The best thing for however long ccleaner remains is to download the portable version instead as this isa straight zip file and can be put anywhere you like.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2018 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and CCleaner (free, anyway)

The new version of CCleaner has been discussed on one or two lists I'm on and it has the check box problem you are describing. I believe it is now considered inaccessible because of that problem. One more program that is no longer accessible in a long and growing list. I haven't seen the other problem you discussed but I'm very doubtful user error is involved. It's probably just another aqccessibility problem or a related one. I don't use the program and I don't know enough about it to say which. Whatever the case, it appears that an older version needs to be used.

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2018 9:30 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and CCleaner (free, anyway)

Hello All,

I was just trying out NVDA with the latest version of CCleaner free and seem to have encountered an accessibility issue that may be the result of operator error.

The "large buttons" that control which major function you're under can be reached by tabbing or up/down arrowing, and if you hit spacebar on any one of them its control buttons come up. What is odd is that you still end up either tabbing or arrowing past the other major control buttons before you hit the "function control buttons" for the major function you've activated.

I do have problems reaching the individual checkboxes under the Options (major), Monitoring (minor) function. It's odd because when I activate the Monitoring button, and if I have the NVDA Focus Highlight add-on running, there is clearly a quick scan down the list of controls, which are mostly checkboxes, but you cannot seem to come to rest on any of them to access them.

Is there a way to get oneself over into the "checkbox area" (for lack of a better term) of this function in order to be able to deal with the checkboxes. Since mouse tracking is on by default I know that these exist as far as NVDA is concerned as when I hover over them I get appropriate feedback, I just can't seem to reach them via the keyboard, which would be essential.


Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

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