I'm hoping you gone over a work around to have the messages
being pushed to Chrome's notification bar automatically read
by NVDA?
Also what is the shortcut key to be placed in the
notification bar? The alt+n key combination doesn't seem to
work. Thanks.
Hi all!
I have been telling people just how great
Chrome is for two and a half years.
I am so happy that all of you are finding
it to be true.
If anyone needs my text tutorial I wrote
on how to use Chrome, and take you through all settings, I
will paste it on the list.
I have done this around ten times on all
the lists, but you are still finding out for the first time,
just how great Chrome is.
Just read works great for just reading an
article on the page.
CTRL+J allows you to hear the status of
the downloads. Now, CTRL+Shift+O allows you to open the
bookmarks manager, and you can arrange them in different
folders and back them up.
Chrome is great with Youtube, and
streaming media. Chrome is good for a lot other than just
simple browsing.
Have a great one, and I am celebrating
that you are finally getting used to Chrome!
David Moore
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From: juan gonzalez
Sent: Sunday, May 6, 2018 5:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I've largely changed my mind
about Chrome, I like it muchmore now
I use the add on called sound on for
navigational sounds.
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Would anyone know if Chrome has sounds?
one of the annoyances with current firefox is figuring out
when downloads are finished or when a page is refreshing
itself, ie you normally hear the ticks in the old version
due to navigational sounds.
Until i find a browser with this function
of sound I'm loathe to get a new browser over ff52, but the
problem is that I've been reading that some sites now do not
support the old versions of Firefox and tell you so when you
have things like modal windows whatever they are.
On XP to make Firefox perform even
reasonably you need to use a version 45, as after this the
actual load up times are hugely slowed, my guess is that the
code is made for multi processor devices, not single core
ones.This is also why on xp you might find that Chrome and
firefox are similar in page loading times.
Things are no pushing ahead so fast on
sites that its not uncommon to see the message you browser
is unsupported get this or that then you can come back.
To me this is a weird thing for
commercial sites to do, as they are, in effect pushing away
potential customers, but hey, that is their business.
Brian
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Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2018 10:57 AM
Subject: [nvda] I've largely changed my
mind about Chrome, I like it much more now
I may have sent messages in the past in
which I expressed a much stronger liking for Firefox than
Chrome. At this point, I've changed my mind and, unless
things change over time, as they may as Firefox continues to
implement its new internal technical changes, I consider
Chrome to be superior for general browsing. I haven't tested
it for uses such as streaming or RSS or other uses. I will
therefore only address general browsing and the interface.
Others may want to comment on other aspects I haven't
compared.
This is a long message, a bit of a review
and a bit of discussion of the interface. I hope those
interested in the subject find it useful.
If you try Chrome and find it superior
for general browsing, you may still not want to use Chrome
as your main browser. There are various considerations.
I'll explain why I changed my mind and what you may want to
consider. You may have other or different considerations as
well.
The reason I say Chrome is better for
general browsing is because it loads pages faster than
Firefox. You may want to compare and see if the difference
is important to you. There is a very noticeable
difference. I hadn't compared Chrome with Firefox for speed
on a fast machine. I compared them on a slow machine
running XP perhaps six or eight months ago. I had expected
that, if Chrome was faster, there would have been a
noticeable difference, even though the machine was slow.
But there wasn't a difference that amounted to anything.
I recently decided to compare on a
reasonably fast machine running Windows 7 since many people
have said on lists I'm on that Chrome is faster. There is a
very noticeable difference in speed on my Windows 7
machine. I don't know what the results would have been on a
fast XP machine.
I haven't used Chrome much but the
increase in speed is the reason I say it's better for
general browsing.
The Chrome interface is different than
Firefox or Internet Explorer. It isn't difficult to learn
but it is different. You will likely want a tutorial or
some instructional material. If you are good at learning by
exploring, you may not want or need such material, at least
not to use in depth, but you may benefit in early learning
by using material.
The main things to know in terms of the
differences in the interface are that Chrome shows many
things as web pages, such as settings and history and there
is one menu, which you can open with alt f, that is, hold
alt and press f. Of course, there are submenus and there
are also items that open like web pages such as settings.
I don't recall if there are classic
dialogs that open from the main menu.
But if you work with settings, you need
to know that the settings interface doesn't work quite
properly in the following way:
It's a web page-like interface but there
some controls that don't work as they should. I tried to
activate two buttons today and I couldn't do so in browse
mode using NVDA. I don't know what JAWS does. I had to
manually go into forms mode, and activate the buttons. I
may have had to tab to the button because forms mode may not
have been properly calibrated with browse mode in that
interface, at least at times.
I seem to recall that in another
instance, I needed to be in browse mode to activate
something but I'd have to experiment more to know if that is
the case since I don't have a clear memory of whether that
was necessary.
There's a very useful settings search
feature in settings.
One of my main objections to Chrome in
the past was that the book marks interface is not nearly as
comvenient to work with as Firefox because the search
feature in Chrome book marks appears to be inaccessible. I
very recently learned from someone on a list I follow that
this problem can be more or less eliminated. I say more or
less because I haven't played with it much, but enough to
see that it works well or reasonably well. I'm hedging
because I'd want to play with it more before saying just how
well it works. It' appears to work well from the very
little testing I've done. If you are in the address bar,
you can type some or all of what you want to find such as
york times or new york times and you can up and down arrow
through results. Some of them will be search results using
a search engine but the top results in the list should be
from book marks and history. Try reading the current line
after typing to see if that contains the first result. I
haven't played with the feature more than a little and I'm
not sure. But if it works well, this would eliminate what I
consider to be an important deficiency. In other words, this
feature may make book marks just as easy to use in Chrome as
in Firefox.
If you use Firefox extensions that you
consider important and use them a lot, that may be a
consideration in which browser you want to use. and then,
there's just convenience of not learning a new interface and
continuing to use the familiar Firefox. You, of course, can
determine questions like that. It's nice to have pages load
a good deal faster, but the importance of speed may vary
from user to user. But if you haven't compared with a hands
on test, you may wish to.
Browsing is either identical or nearly
identical between the browsers because they both use browse
mode, or the Virtual PC cursor, which is the JAWS name for
the same thing.
So you can compare by installing Chrome,
and then opening and using some web sites. Control l moves
you to the address bar, just as in Firefox. I believe when
you open Chrome, you are automatically placed on the address
bar, but you can check. If you want to make sure, it takes
almost no time to execute control l.
I hope those who are interested in this
subject find these comments useful.
If people are curious or dissatisfied
with Firefox or another browser, they may want to try
Chrome. I haven't used Edge at all so I don't know how Edge
compares.
Gene
