I'm hoping you gone over a work around to have the messages
being pushed to Chrome's notification bar automatically read
Also what is the shortcut key to be placed in the
notification bar? The alt+n key combination doesn't seem to
I have been telling people just how
great Chrome is for two and a half years.
I am so happy that all of you are
finding it to be true.
If anyone needs my text tutorial I
wrote on how to use Chrome, and take you through all
settings, I will paste it on the list.
I have done this around ten times on
all the lists, but you are still finding out for the first
time, just how great Chrome is.
Just read works great for just reading
an article on the page.
CTRL+J allows you to hear the status of
the downloads. Now, CTRL+Shift+O allows you to open the
bookmarks manager, and you can arrange them in different
folders and back them up.
Chrome is great with Youtube, and
streaming media. Chrome is good for a lot other than just
Have a great one, and I am celebrating
that you are finally getting used to Chrome!
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Subject: Re: [nvda] I've largely changed my mind
about Chrome, I like it muchmore now
I use the add on called sound on for
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Would anyone know if Chrome has sounds?
one of the annoyances with current firefox is figuring out
when downloads are finished or when a page is refreshing
itself, ie you normally hear the ticks in the old version
due to navigational sounds.
Until i find a browser with this
function of sound I'm loathe to get a new browser over
ff52, but the problem is that I've been reading that some
sites now do not support the old versions of Firefox and
tell you so when you have things like modal windows
whatever they are.
On XP to make Firefox perform even
reasonably you need to use a version 45, as after this the
actual load up times are hugely slowed, my guess is that
the code is made for multi processor devices, not single
core ones.This is also why on xp you might find that
Chrome and firefox are similar in page loading times.
Things are no pushing ahead so fast on
sites that its not uncommon to see the message you browser
is unsupported get this or that then you can come back.
To me this is a weird thing for
commercial sites to do, as they are, in effect pushing
away potential customers, but hey, that is their business.
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From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2018 10:57 AM
Subject: [nvda] I've largely changed my
mind about Chrome, I like it much more now
I may have sent messages in the past in
which I expressed a much stronger liking for Firefox than
Chrome. At this point, I've changed my mind and, unless
things change over time, as they may as Firefox continues
to implement its new internal technical changes, I
consider Chrome to be superior for general browsing. I
haven't tested it for uses such as streaming or RSS or
other uses. I will therefore only address general
browsing and the interface. Others may want to comment on
other aspects I haven't compared.
This is a long message, a bit of a
review and a bit of discussion of the interface. I hope
those interested in the subject find it useful.
If you try Chrome and find it superior
for general browsing, you may still not want to use Chrome
as your main browser. There are various considerations.
I'll explain why I changed my mind and what you may want
to consider. You may have other or different
considerations as well.
The reason I say Chrome is better for
general browsing is because it loads pages faster than
Firefox. You may want to compare and see if the
difference is important to you. There is a very
noticeable difference. I hadn't compared Chrome with
Firefox for speed on a fast machine. I compared them on a
slow machine running XP perhaps six or eight months ago.
I had expected that, if Chrome was faster, there would
have been a noticeable difference, even though the machine
was slow. But there wasn't a difference that amounted to
I recently decided to compare on a
reasonably fast machine running Windows 7 since many
people have said on lists I'm on that Chrome is faster.
There is a very noticeable difference in speed on my
Windows 7 machine. I don't know what the results would
have been on a fast XP machine.
I haven't used Chrome much but the
increase in speed is the reason I say it's better for
The Chrome interface is different than
Firefox or Internet Explorer. It isn't difficult to learn
but it is different. You will likely want a tutorial or
some instructional material. If you are good at learning
by exploring, you may not want or need such material, at
least not to use in depth, but you may benefit in early
learning by using material.
The main things to know in terms of the
differences in the interface are that Chrome shows many
things as web pages, such as settings and history and
there is one menu, which you can open with alt f, that is,
hold alt and press f. Of course, there are submenus and
there are also items that open like web pages such as
I don't recall if there are classic
dialogs that open from the main menu.
But if you work with settings, you need
to know that the settings interface doesn't work quite
properly in the following way:
It's a web page-like interface but
there some controls that don't work as they should. I
tried to activate two buttons today and I couldn't do so
in browse mode using NVDA. I don't know what JAWS does.
I had to manually go into forms mode, and activate the
buttons. I may have had to tab to the button because
forms mode may not have been properly calibrated with
browse mode in that interface, at least at times.
I seem to recall that in another
instance, I needed to be in browse mode to activate
something but I'd have to experiment more to know if that
is the case since I don't have a clear memory of whether
that was necessary.
There's a very useful settings search
feature in settings.
One of my main objections to Chrome in
the past was that the book marks interface is not nearly
as comvenient to work with as Firefox because the search
feature in Chrome book marks appears to be inaccessible.
I very recently learned from someone on a list I follow
that this problem can be more or less eliminated. I say
more or less because I haven't played with it much, but
enough to see that it works well or reasonably well. I'm
hedging because I'd want to play with it more before
saying just how well it works. It' appears to work well
from the very little testing I've done. If you are in the
address bar, you can type some or all of what you want to
find such as york times or new york times and you can up
and down arrow through results. Some of them will be
search results using a search engine but the top results
in the list should be from book marks and history. Try
reading the current line after typing to see if that
contains the first result. I haven't played with the
feature more than a little and I'm not sure. But if it
works well, this would eliminate what I consider to be an
important deficiency. In other words, this feature may
make book marks just as easy to use in Chrome as in
If you use Firefox extensions that you
consider important and use them a lot, that may be a
consideration in which browser you want to use. and then,
there's just convenience of not learning a new interface
and continuing to use the familiar Firefox. You, of
course, can determine questions like that. It's nice to
have pages load a good deal faster, but the importance of
speed may vary from user to user. But if you haven't
compared with a hands on test, you may wish to.
Browsing is either identical or nearly
identical between the browsers because they both use
browse mode, or the Virtual PC cursor, which is the JAWS
name for the same thing.
So you can compare by installing
Chrome, and then opening and using some web sites.
Control l moves you to the address bar, just as in
Firefox. I believe when you open Chrome, you are
automatically placed on the address bar, but you can
check. If you want to make sure, it takes almost no time
to execute control l.
I hope those who are interested in this
subject find these comments useful.
If people are curious or dissatisfied
with Firefox or another browser, they may want to try
Chrome. I haven't used Edge at all so I don't know how