I'm hoping you gone over a work around to have the messages being pushed
to Chrome's notification bar automatically read by NVDA?
Also what is the shortcut key to be placed in the notification bar? The
alt+n key combination doesn't seem to work. Thanks.
I have been telling people just how great Chrome is for
two and a half years.
I am so happy that all of you are finding it to be
If anyone needs my text tutorial I wrote on how to use
Chrome, and take you through all settings, I will paste it on the
I have done this around ten times on all the lists, but
you are still finding out for the first time, just how great Chrome
Just read works great for just reading an article on
CTRL+J allows you to hear the status of the downloads.
Now, CTRL+Shift+O allows you to open the bookmarks manager, and you can
arrange them in different folders and back them up.
Chrome is great with Youtube, and streaming media.
Chrome is good for a lot other than just simple browsing.
Have a great one, and I am celebrating that you are
finally getting used to Chrome!
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[nvda] I've largely changed my mind about Chrome, I like it muchmore
I use the add on called sound on for navigational
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Would anyone know if Chrome has sounds? one of the
annoyances with current firefox is figuring out when downloads are
finished or when a page is refreshing itself, ie you normally hear the
ticks in the old version due to navigational sounds.
Until i find a browser with this function of sound I'm
loathe to get a new browser over ff52, but the problem is that I've been
reading that some sites now do not support the old versions of Firefox and
tell you so when you have things like modal windows whatever they
On XP to make Firefox perform even reasonably you need
to use a version 45, as after this the actual load up times are hugely
slowed, my guess is that the code is made for multi processor
devices, not single core ones.This is also why on xp you might find that
Chrome and firefox are similar in page loading times.
Things are no pushing ahead so fast on sites that its
not uncommon to see the message you browser is unsupported get this or
that then you can come back.
To me this is a weird thing for commercial sites to do,
as they are, in effect pushing away potential customers, but hey, that is
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Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2018 10:57 AM
Subject: [nvda] I've largely changed my mind about
Chrome, I like it much more now
I may have sent messages in the past in which I
expressed a much stronger liking for Firefox than Chrome. At this
point, I've changed my mind and, unless things change over time, as they
may as Firefox continues to implement its new internal technical changes,
I consider Chrome to be superior for general browsing. I haven't tested it
for uses such as streaming or RSS or other uses. I will therefore
only address general browsing and the interface. Others may want to
comment on other aspects I haven't compared.
This is a long message, a bit of a review and a bit of
discussion of the interface. I hope those interested in the subject
find it useful.
If you try Chrome and find it superior for general
browsing, you may still not want to use Chrome as your main browser.
There are various considerations. I'll explain why I changed my mind
and what you may want to consider. You may have other or different
considerations as well.
The reason I say Chrome is better for general browsing
is because it loads pages faster than Firefox. You may want to
compare and see if the difference is important to you. There is a
very noticeable difference. I hadn't compared Chrome with Firefox
for speed on a fast machine. I compared them on a slow machine
running XP perhaps six or eight months ago. I had expected that, if
Chrome was faster, there would have been a noticeable difference, even
though the machine was slow. But there wasn't a difference that
amounted to anything.
I recently decided to compare on a reasonably fast
machine running Windows 7 since many people have said on lists I'm on that
Chrome is faster. There is a very noticeable difference in speed on
my Windows 7 machine. I don't know what the results would have been
on a fast XP machine.
I haven't used Chrome much but the increase in speed is
the reason I say it's better for general browsing.
The Chrome interface is different than Firefox or
Internet Explorer. It isn't difficult to learn but it is
different. You will likely want a tutorial or some instructional
material. If you are good at learning by exploring, you may not want
or need such material, at least not to use in depth, but you may benefit
in early learning by using material.
The main things to know in terms of the differences in
the interface are that Chrome shows many things as web pages, such as
settings and history and there is one menu, which you can open with alt f,
that is, hold alt and press f. Of course, there are submenus and
there are also items that open like web pages such as
I don't recall if there are classic dialogs that open
from the main menu.
But if you work with settings, you need to know that
the settings interface doesn't work quite properly in the following
It's a web page-like interface but there some controls
that don't work as they should. I tried to activate two buttons
today and I couldn't do so in browse mode using NVDA. I don't know
what JAWS does. I had to manually go into forms mode, and activate
the buttons. I may have had to tab to the button because forms mode
may not have been properly calibrated with browse mode in that interface,
at least at times.
I seem to recall that in another instance, I needed to
be in browse mode to activate something but I'd have to experiment more to
know if that is the case since I don't have a clear memory of whether that
There's a very useful settings search feature in
One of my main objections to Chrome in the past was
that the book marks interface is not nearly as comvenient to work with as
Firefox because the search feature in Chrome book marks appears to be
inaccessible. I very recently learned from someone on a list I
follow that this problem can be more or less eliminated. I say more
or less because I haven't played with it much, but enough to see that it
works well or reasonably well. I'm hedging because I'd want to play
with it more before saying just how well it works. It' appears to
work well from the very little testing I've done. If you are in the
address bar, you can type some or all of what you want to find such as
york times or new york times and you can up and down arrow through
results. Some of them will be search results using a search engine
but the top results in the list should be from book marks and
history. Try reading the current line after typing to see if that
contains the first result. I haven't played with the feature more
than a little and I'm not sure. But if it works well, this would
eliminate what I consider to be an important deficiency. In other words,
this feature may make book marks just as easy to use in Chrome as in
If you use Firefox extensions that you consider
important and use them a lot, that may be a consideration in which browser
you want to use. and then, there's just convenience of not learning
a new interface and continuing to use the familiar Firefox. You, of
course, can determine questions like that. It's nice to have pages
load a good deal faster, but the importance of speed may vary from user to
user. But if you haven't compared with a hands on test, you may wish
Browsing is either identical or nearly identical
between the browsers because they both use browse mode, or the Virtual PC
cursor, which is the JAWS name for the same thing.
So you can compare by installing Chrome, and then
opening and using some web sites. Control l moves you to the address
bar, just as in Firefox. I believe when you open Chrome, you are
automatically placed on the address bar, but you can check. If you
want to make sure, it takes almost no time to execute control
I hope those who are interested in this subject find
these comments useful.
If people are curious or dissatisfied with Firefox or
another browser, they may want to try Chrome. I haven't used Edge at
all so I don't know how Edge compares.