I'm hoping you gone over a work around to have the messages being
pushed to Chrome's notification bar automatically read by
NVDA?
Also what is the shortcut key to be placed in the notification bar? The
alt+n key combination doesn't seem to work. Thanks.
Hi all!
I have been telling people just how great Chrome is
for two and a half years.
I am so happy that all of you are finding it to be
true.
If anyone needs my text tutorial I wrote on how to
use Chrome, and take you through all settings, I will paste it on the
list.
I have done this around ten times on all the lists,
but you are still finding out for the first time, just how great Chrome
is.
Just read works great for just reading an article on
the page.
CTRL+J allows you to hear the status of the
downloads. Now, CTRL+Shift+O allows you to open the bookmarks manager,
and you can arrange them in different folders and back them
up.
Chrome is great with Youtube, and streaming media.
Chrome is good for a lot other than just simple browsing.
Have a great one, and I am celebrating that you are
finally getting used to Chrome!
David Moore
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[nvda] I've largely changed my mind about Chrome, I like it muchmore
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I use the add on called sound on for navigational
sounds.
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Would anyone know if Chrome has sounds? one of the
annoyances with current firefox is figuring out when downloads are
finished or when a page is refreshing itself, ie you normally hear the
ticks in the old version due to navigational
sounds.
Until i find a browser with this function of sound
I'm loathe to get a new browser over ff52, but the problem is that I've
been reading that some sites now do not support the old versions of
Firefox and tell you so when you have things like modal windows whatever
they are.
On XP to make Firefox perform even reasonably you
need to use a version 45, as after this the actual load up times are
hugely slowed, my guess is that the code is made for multi
processor devices, not single core ones.This is also why on xp you
might find that Chrome and firefox are similar in page loading
times.
Things are no pushing ahead so fast on sites that its
not uncommon to see the message you browser is unsupported get this or
that then you can come back.
To me this is a weird thing for commercial sites to
do, as they are, in effect pushing away potential customers, but hey,
that is their business.
Brian
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Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2018 10:57 AM
Subject: [nvda] I've largely changed my mind about
Chrome, I like it much more now
I may have sent messages in the past in which I
expressed a much stronger liking for Firefox than Chrome. At this
point, I've changed my mind and, unless things change over time, as they
may as Firefox continues to implement its new internal technical
changes, I consider Chrome to be superior for general browsing. I
haven't tested it for uses such as streaming or RSS or other uses.
I will therefore only address general browsing and the interface.
Others may want to comment on other aspects I haven't
compared.
This is a long message, a bit of a review and a bit
of discussion of the interface. I hope those interested in the
subject find it useful.
If you try Chrome and find it superior for general
browsing, you may still not want to use Chrome as your main
browser. There are various considerations. I'll explain why
I changed my mind and what you may want to consider. You may have
other or different considerations as well.
The reason I say Chrome is better for general
browsing is because it loads pages faster than Firefox. You may
want to compare and see if the difference is important to you.
There is a very noticeable difference. I hadn't compared Chrome
with Firefox for speed on a fast machine. I compared them on a
slow machine running XP perhaps six or eight months ago. I had
expected that, if Chrome was faster, there would have been a noticeable
difference, even though the machine was slow. But there wasn't a
difference that amounted to anything.
I recently decided to compare on a reasonably fast
machine running Windows 7 since many people have said on lists I'm on
that Chrome is faster. There is a very noticeable difference in
speed on my Windows 7 machine. I don't know what the results would
have been on a fast XP machine.
I haven't used Chrome much but the increase in speed
is the reason I say it's better for general browsing.
The Chrome interface is different than Firefox or
Internet Explorer. It isn't difficult to learn but it is
different. You will likely want a tutorial or some instructional
material. If you are good at learning by exploring, you may not
want or need such material, at least not to use in depth, but you may
benefit in early learning by using material.
The main things to know in terms of the differences
in the interface are that Chrome shows many things as web pages, such as
settings and history and there is one menu, which you can open with alt
f, that is, hold alt and press f. Of course, there are submenus
and there are also items that open like web pages such as
settings.
I don't recall if there are classic dialogs that open
from the main menu.
But if you work with settings, you need to know that
the settings interface doesn't work quite properly in the following
way:
It's a web page-like interface but there some
controls that don't work as they should. I tried to activate two
buttons today and I couldn't do so in browse mode using NVDA. I
don't know what JAWS does. I had to manually go into forms mode,
and activate the buttons. I may have had to tab to the button
because forms mode may not have been properly calibrated with browse
mode in that interface, at least at times.
I seem to recall that in another instance, I needed
to be in browse mode to activate something but I'd have to experiment
more to know if that is the case since I don't have a clear memory of
whether that was necessary.
There's a very useful settings search feature in
settings.
One of my main objections to Chrome in the past was
that the book marks interface is not nearly as comvenient to work with
as Firefox because the search feature in Chrome book marks appears to be
inaccessible. I very recently learned from someone on a list I
follow that this problem can be more or less eliminated. I say
more or less because I haven't played with it much, but enough to see
that it works well or reasonably well. I'm hedging because I'd
want to play with it more before saying just how well it works.
It' appears to work well from the very little testing I've done.
If you are in the address bar, you can type some or all of what you want
to find such as york times or new york times and you can up and down
arrow through results. Some of them will be search results using a
search engine but the top results in the list should be from book marks
and history. Try reading the current line after typing to see if
that contains the first result. I haven't played with the feature
more than a little and I'm not sure. But if it works well, this
would eliminate what I consider to be an important deficiency. In other
words, this feature may make book marks just as easy to use in Chrome as
in Firefox.
If you use Firefox extensions that you consider
important and use them a lot, that may be a consideration in which
browser you want to use. and then, there's just convenience of not
learning a new interface and continuing to use the familiar
Firefox. You, of course, can determine questions like that.
It's nice to have pages load a good deal faster, but the importance of
speed may vary from user to user. But if you haven't compared with
a hands on test, you may wish to.
Browsing is either identical or nearly identical
between the browsers because they both use browse mode, or the Virtual
PC cursor, which is the JAWS name for the same thing.
So you can compare by installing Chrome, and then
opening and using some web sites. Control l moves you to the
address bar, just as in Firefox. I believe when you open Chrome,
you are automatically placed on the address bar, but you can
check. If you want to make sure, it takes almost no time to
execute control l.
I hope those who are interested in this subject find
these comments useful.
If people are curious or dissatisfied with Firefox or
another browser, they may want to try Chrome. I haven't used Edge
at all so I don't know how Edge compares.
Gene
