That's a good message. I have a question
and a comment.
According to what I've read and heard, object
navigation is the NVDA equivalent to the JAWS' touch cursor.
I'm not familiar with Cobra but is there some
reason you think the JAWS touch cursor is superior for use with web
pages? I can't tell if you are implying that.
Also, using a screen-reader's find command is an
important and underused way to deal with web pages. Many times, the find
command is the best way to find something, such as when you are on a web page,
you know or have a good guess about what a link will say, and there are no
other efficient ways to move directly to it.
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Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about Web Browsing
This discussion kind of evolved
in to talking about browsing with Amazon, but I have some more general ideas.
First, do make sure you have IE, Chrome and FireFox and Edge, available and
updated, and depending on which pages you visit most often, make the default
browser the one that works best with those pages. Be flexible about trying
that page with a different browser. Also be sure you keep NVDA updated as
Second, remember that sighted people struggle too. My sighted husband
was just complaining about Facebook last night; he has to use it for a group
he manages. He said he was trying to scroll down to post something on the
calendar, and little videos would pop up and play each time he scrolled. It
was driving him crazy. He also has issues with the Yahoo groups interface that
though not identical to mine are equally tedious and time-wasting.
you can always vote with your fingertips. If I find something difficult to buy
on Amazon I use iBOOKS instead of Kindle, Walmart for tangible goods, or even
an accessible site like BlindMiceMart. Amazon at least has the dedicated
customer service number for disabilities.
Fourth, Make sure you have the
JAWS demo, if you need to check something that NVDA is apparently not able to
read. I find that NVDA usually reads more than JAWS but every once in a while,
something has been scripted for JAWS that makes it possible for JAWS to read
it. Also you can use the JAWS touch cursor through the keyboard and that can
help locate things.
Fifth: If you have an app like Seeing AI or KNFB
Reader, you can get pretty good screen OCR. If you have One-drive you can
press Print-Screen and have screen shots saved to your one-drive so you can
either try to OCR them or have sighted help look at them for you
Sixth: NVDA's object nav works a lot like Cobra, so be sure you
practice using it, mostly with applications you are familiar with in the first
place. I find Brailling each keystroke on a separate notecard, so I can
flip through a stack of cards, rather than alt-tabbing to a list of keyboard
shortcuts to be easier, especially if I'm using object nav and don't want to
disturb the screen.