Hello all,
As I said yesterday, I'll disable NVDA from startup for me as a
user and for the sign-in screen and enable Narrator there instead.
I've done it, and here are the results. When I booted my machine
this morning, Narrator started on the lock/sign-in screen, but
that did not invoke the "Ease of access" menu. Otherwise, the
behavior is the same: moments after the lock screen appears, it
displays user information such as weather forecast, upcoming
alarms, etc. So, Microsoft definitely has changed something about
how the lock screen works in Windows 10 version 1803. I don't mind
those changes, but the appearance of the "Ease of access" menu
invoked it seams by NVDA is something that should be fixed.
Strangely enough, I've powered on my "Insider Preview" virtual
machine last night and now it does not have this behavior, even
though previously it did. The only difference in it now in
comparison with before is that now it is running a RS5 (build
17672) of Windows 10 and when the problem occurred it was running
RS4 builds of Windows 10 (builds 17134 and older). So, my guess is
that maybe there is a bug in Windows 10 RS4, which was fixed in
RS5 builds. Let's hope so... I'll keep an eye on things.
BTW: And in answer to a question I think was from Sarah - no,
I'll don't have any intentions whatsoever to disable my lock
screen, at least for now - I like it this way. 😀
______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev
На 18.5.2018 г. в 10:06, Kostadin Kolev
написа:
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Hello all,
As I said in my previous message, I've disabled "Fast Boot"
yesterday. That however, did not help for the strange behavior -
this morning I turned on my PC and the behavior was the same.
So, "Fast Boot" is not to blame here.
I'll leave it be as it is for now, until I can gather some
useful technical information and eventually report this to
Microsoft.
One more thing that I'll try is to disable NVDA at startup for
me as a user and for the lock/sign-in screen and instead enable
Narrator for that. If the problem with the appearing "Ease of
access" menu persists even after that, I'll definitely report
this to Microsoft.
______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev
На 17.5.2018 г. в 17:33, Kostadin
Kolev написа:
Hello all,
Chris, it is not so. Firstly, I don't hear Narrator speaking
and in such a case I should, because it uses a different voice
from NVDA. Secondly, I don't see the Narrator Cursor on the
screen and with my settings I should, if Narrator is running.
Thirdly, I checked in Control Panel -> Ease of access ->
Change sign-in settings and Narrator there is not set to run
neither on the lock screen, nor after I sign in.
Part of the described in my first message behavior (the one
about displaying user information on the lock screen) might be
considered as normal, specially if Microsoft have done some
changes as to how things load after a "Fast Boot". But I don't
think displaying the "Ease of access" menu without me invoking
it manually could be considered a normal behavior. And some
more food for thought: shouldn't the user's things and
information be loaded after he signs in and not before that
(?).
I could, and probably will, contact Microsoft about this, but
firstly I wanted to ask if I'm the only one experiencing this.
I don't think so, because I've experienced it in my virtual
machine with Windows 10 Insider Preview, but I've attributed
it to the slowness of the virtual machine. Apparently that is
not the case.
I've temporarily disabled "Fast Boot" and will test how
things go.
______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev
На 17.5.2018 г. в 15:35, Chris via
Groups.Io написа:
It sounds like you have both narrator
and nvda to start on the login screen, check settings in
both narrator and nvda
As for the other stuff you can change
them in settings > personalization > lock screen
So nothing unusual at all really 😃
Hello all,
I've noticed this strange behavior after the update of
Windows 10 to version 1803. The behavior is the following.
When the machine starts and Windows 10 loads, it gets to
the lock screen as it should. Initially it all looks
normal, but only for a while. Moments after that, the lock
screen displays not only the time and date as it normally
does, but user-specific information as well (e.g. weather
forecast, upcoming alarms, etc.). Not only that, but the
NVDA startup sound is heard, as if the desktop copy of
NVDA is loaded, even though it should load only when the
specific user signs in. I can't tell for sure if the
desktop copy of NVDA loads, because my NVDA settings for
the desktop and secure screen copies of it are the same.
On top of that, the "Ease of access" menu appears and NVDA
starts reading its menu items one by one. This happens
when I power up the machine with "Fast Boot" enabled. I
haven't tried with "Fast Boot" disabled, but when I
restart the machine, the behavior described above does not
occur. So, it must be related to "Fast Boot" somehow. And
this did not occur before the update to version 1803 of
Windows 10.
Has anyone else experienced the behavior described above?
Have you found any solutions besides turning off "Fast
Boot"? Turning off "Fast Boot" is also a solution, but I'd
prefer to keep it on if possible.
______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev
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