Re: Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803
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Steve Nutt
Wow, I wish I could agree with you. Still not enough configuration for me.
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NVDA's not bad, but not so usable as JAWS with applications that have custom interfaces. All the best Steve
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Angela Delicata Sent: 22 May 2018 16:16 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803 Thank you for your reply: I think nvda is getting more and more closer to Jaws and I would dare to say it is very very good now... I am using it full time and don't feel the need for Jws at all... I don't no with specific software, but i know friends of mine who use it at workplace also, nvda I mean. Il 22/05/2018 17:07, Ervin, Glenn ha scritto: Hi Angela,the best one. I think that Linux is superior to Windows in many ways, although likeNVDA, Orca is not as robust as JFW. But most of the software we use in Linux is free.their first computer would do well to get them a computer with Ubuntu, especially if they are not visually impaired. They can more safely browse the web and still do their eMail and playthose card games. Or I think that if they had an XP machine or will soon need to replacetheir Windows 7 machine, you can install Ubuntu on that old computer alongside of their old windows and they will be happy and more secure. GlennDelicata Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 9:59 AMfuture. that they like Linux. comes with eSpeak, but I purchased Eloquence for 5 dollars and it is allI often Use Ubuntu, and Orca is as good of a screenreader as NVDA. It free. is like Windows.You can download an ISO image here: paste, to mention a few.I'd say it is more like Windows than Windows is becoming. starts to bring up Orca.It is more secure than Windows for sure. use it to retrieve your data if Windows won't boot.I think we need more tools in our tool kit, and if nothing else, you can only need to press enter, which is for trying it without installing it.After burning to disk, when it spins up and stops, it will beep, and you conventional Windows Desktop interface?Glenn but launch apps (Universal) and perform common end-user tasks (Word Processing, watching videos, listening to music etc.) No more minimizing Windows. No more switching from Desktop to Start button, to Tasks bar. Microsoft Edge will be the parent node for everything that occurs in Windows. open programs/sites/projects. Start button in the original Windows 10 release. They're taking a spoon fed approach to getting rid of the Desktop interface this time LOL. Thus, what I say below may change without notice, and feature availability will depend on maturity of the feature in question: activities together. Previously, if you wanted a tabbed app usage experience, you had to use web browsers and certain apps that does support tabs (Notepad++ is one of them). Sets changes this in a major way: you'll be able to run apps inside Microsoft Edge tabs. controls that invite you to open a new tab, a list of tabs will be shown, and a button that offers to restore previously opened tabs. The actual app content will be housed inside a Microsoft Edge container window, similar to what happens now when you use certain apps with Windows My People (Version 1709). open a new "tab". This new tab window (from Microsoft Edge) consists of typical new tab content, as well as an embedded Cortana search box that lets you search for things such as another app to open. After searching for things via this search box, press Enter to open an app or a file. The Edge new tab content is replaced by app screen, and a new tab, representing the just opened app, will be listed in tabs list. Control+Windows+Shift+Tab. To switch to a particular app tab (provided that you know the app position), press Control+Windows+number row key. To close an app, press Control+Windows+W, and to close everything in one go, press Alt+F4. that supports tabbed browsing, the commands to switch between app tabs are nothing more than switching between browser tabs, except that you would add the Windows key to the mix. list previously opened set and offer to restore all app tabs in one go. and other windows. This is because, in reality, app tabs are apps running* When you pres Alt+Tab, you'll be able to cycle through Edge tabs inside Edge container window, so will be treated as switching between apps. You can change it so that Alt+Tab will let you cycle between app windows instead, which means only the focused app in a set will be visible. another window or a tab. For example, if you click a link in outlook,* You can ask Windows to open things you click from one app in Windows will either open the link in a new browser window or a new Edge tab. drives in one sitting. tabs set where you have Word or Libreoffice Writer open and a collection of* Writing papers and viewing research results: you can have an app Edge tabs with research data. workbook open in Excel while using latest currency conversion results from* Updating currency conversion formula in Excel: you can have a Calculator app and update your spreadsheet accordingly. Console: you'll be able to open a set where one tab is NVDA's own Python* Testing accessibility of an app while debugging it via Python Console and the other one could be an app you're actively testing. <nvda@nvda.groups.io><mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Roger Stewart do I find this and turn it on? Also, why would I need it on? Does it helpSent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 9:31 AM with screen reader accessibility? matter. A lot of the changes that inconvenience blind users until they learn how to use them may be intuitive and quickly understood by sighted users. and, in the case of screen-reader problems, sighted people wouldn't have any of those problems. Also, as in the new feature of sets, they may not be on by default. As I recall what I read, sets is off by default. blind users have problems that I'm in no hurry to get Windows 10. Even if the problems are temporary, such as screen-reader problems that are dealt with not too long after the upgrade, Windows 10 has nothing I want that justifies even relatively minor inconveniences time after time. working very well with an earlier version of Windows. Groups.Io<mailto:bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> simplySent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 10:47 AM Theyprovide a system stable and just with security updates like windows 7. neware not doing themselves any good by bringing out new versions of windows 10.features but do not change the whole concept and still call it windows messingthat is just silly. That is my feeling after being exposed to their Gaff'about. its as if the developers who used to regularly screw up Skype have Winin the display name field. <nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt10 is detected? New users shouldn't certainly have to go hunting for <nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Brian's MailSent: 16 May 2018 15:43 'Brian Gaff'list account via Groups.Io <nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Jacobin the display name field. reading.Kruger now.For example, File Explorer in Windows 10 is completely silent for me steve@comproom.co.uk<mailto:steve@comproom.co.uk>
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