Re: Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803
Hi Joseph,toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
Since this thread got a little bit hijacked by Linnux, did you get my
message to say that doing the importUIAHandler thing as you directed cured
my Explorer issues?
All the best
From: email@example.com <firstname.lastname@example.org> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: 22 May 2018 16:28
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803
A few things:
1. Vocalizer: depends on what Nuance would say regarding this.
2. Linux accessibility: technically, this depends on distributions, their
age, and how well they handle accessibility calls. Linux does have
3. Security: it may appear to be more secure due to perceived smaller market
share. However, as Spector and Meltdown demonstrates, Linux is prone to
security bugs as well, especially if hardware security is involved. Although
Linus Torvalds, the creator of Linux kernel was quoted as saying that
security bugs are bugs, Linux kernel developers and distribution vendors
(such as Canonical, the maker of Ubuntu distribution) takes security
4. Market share: on the desktop front, Linux's market share is low. On
mobile, server and IoT (internet of things) front, Linux dominates. Android
is a leader in smartphone ecosystem at the moment, and that is powered by
Linux kernel. Many web servers and other cloud data centers use servers
powered by Linux. Internet of Things devices, firmware for many routers and
so on are built on top of Linux. The thing is, some of them are using
outdated Linux kernel versions, which opens up security issues if not tuned
and updated correctly.
5. You can run command-line Linux distributions on Windows: this is powered
by Windows Subsystem for Linux. At the moment there were reports of limited
success with GUI programs.
For more info on Linux, I recommend joining a list such as those for Orca,
Linux Users Groups and so on.
From: email@example.com <firstname.lastname@example.org> On Behalf Of Angela Delicata
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803
Is it also possible to install Vocalizer voices on Linux?
Thank you for any possible reply, this OS has always aroused my curiousity
and I wish I could learn one day.
Il 22/05/2018 16:58, Ervin, Glenn ha scritto:
It is called Voxin, and it is at:settings, you will have to reinstall it if you are running from a live DVD,
but if you install it on USB with a persistence file, it will stay.
Eventually you will probably put Linux on an old computer or duel-bootwith your Windows.
If you download the i386 version, Ubuntu will run well on old machines.Nutt
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 9:51 AMhave to buy it, and I'm happy to do it, but I really don't like ESpeak.
Once Orca starts, it will bring up Orca preferences and you will wanttab through the settings for speed and voices.
I always go to the keyboard tab and turn off the speaking of modifierand I think the other I turn off is navigation keys, because I don't like
hearing when I press those keys.
Don't change the voice from Default in the voice page withoutnew speech engine first.
If you burn it to DVD, the changes won't survive a reboot.changes.
It has a terminal that is sort of like working in DOS.Nutt
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 9:41 AMthat Iso download have Orca built into it then? Can I really press
Windows+S to get speech going on this distro? If so, it may tempt me to
that they like Linux.
I often Use Ubuntu, and Orca is as good of a screenreader as NVDA. Itcomes with eSpeak, but I purchased Eloquence for 5 dollars and it is all
You can download an ISO image here:like Windows.
I'd say it is more like Windows than Windows is becoming.paste, to mention a few.
It is more secure than Windows for sure.starts to bring up Orca.
I think we need more tools in our tool kit, and if nothing else, youuse it to retrieve your data if Windows won't boot.
After burning to disk, when it spins up and stops, it will beep, andonly need to press enter, which is for trying it without installing it.
Glennconventional Windows Desktop interface?
but launch apps (Universal) and perform common end-user tasks (Word
Processing, watching videos, listening to music etc.) No more minimizing
Windows. No more switching from Desktop to Start button, to Tasks bar.
Microsoft Edge will be the parent node for everything that occurs in
Start button in the original Windows 10 release. They're taking a spoon fed
approach to getting rid of the Desktop interface this time LOL.
Thus, what I say below may change without notice, and feature availability
will depend on maturity of the feature in question:
activities together. Previously, if you wanted a tabbed app usage
experience, you had to use web browsers and certain apps that does support
tabs (Notepad++ is one of them). Sets changes this in a major way: you'll be
able to run apps inside Microsoft Edge tabs.
controls that invite you to open a new tab, a list of tabs will be shown,
and a button that offers to restore previously opened tabs. The actual app
content will be housed inside a Microsoft Edge container window, similar to
what happens now when you use certain apps with Windows My People (Version
open a new "tab". This new tab window (from Microsoft Edge) consists of
typical new tab content, as well as an embedded Cortana search box that lets
you search for things such as another app to open. After searching for
things via this search box, press Enter to open an app or a file. The Edge
new tab content is replaced by app screen, and a new tab, representing the
just opened app, will be listed in tabs list.
Control+Windows+Shift+Tab. To switch to a particular app tab (provided
you know the app position), press Control+Windows+number row key. To close
an app, press Control+Windows+W, and to close everything in one go, press
that supports tabbed browsing, the commands to switch between app tabs are
nothing more than switching between browser tabs, except that you would add
the Windows key to the mix.
list previously opened set and offer to restore all app tabs in one go.
* When you pres Alt+Tab, you'll be able to cycle through Edge tabsand other windows. This is because, in reality, app tabs are apps running
inside Edge container window, so will be treated as switching between apps.
You can change it so that Alt+Tab will let you cycle between app windows
instead, which means only the focused app in a set will be visible.
* You can ask Windows to open things you click from one app inanother window or a tab. For example, if you click a link in outlook,
Windows will either open the link in a new browser window or a new Edge tab.
drives in one sitting.
* Writing papers and viewing research results: you can have an apptabs set where you have Word or Libreoffice Writer open and a collection of
Edge tabs with research data.
* Updating currency conversion formula in Excel: you can have aworkbook open in Excel while using latest currency conversion results from
Calculator app and update your spreadsheet accordingly.
* Testing accessibility of an app while debugging it via PythonConsole: you'll be able to open a set where one tab is NVDA's own Python
Console and the other one could be an app you're actively testing.
<email@example.com><mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org> On Behalf Of Roger Stewart
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 9:31 AMdo I find this and turn it on? Also, why would I need it on? Does it help
with screen reader accessibility?
matter. A lot of the changes that inconvenience blind users until they
learn how to use them may be intuitive and quickly understood by sighted
users. and, in the case of screen-reader problems, sighted people wouldn't
have any of those problems. Also, as in the new feature of sets, they may
not be on by default. As I recall what I read, sets is off by default.
users have problems that I'm in no hurry to get Windows 10. Even if the
problems are temporary, such as screen-reader problems that are dealt with
not too long after the upgrade, Windows 10 has nothing I want that justifies
even relatively minor inconveniences time after time.
working very well with an earlier version of Windows.
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 10:47 AMsimply
provide a system stable and just with security updates like windows 7.They
are not doing themselves any good by bringing out new versions ofnew
features but do not change the whole concept and still call it windows 10.messing
about. its as if the developers who used to regularly screw up SkypeGaff'
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now.For example, File Explorer in Windows 10 is completely silent for me