Re: Web Page navigation
I am correct in my description. I am seeing the page differently. This may be because of browser settings I'm using or for other reasons. But if two reliable people differ about the layout of something, it is not correct to assume that one or the other is wrong in the description. They may be observing a different layout or format with neither being aware of the difference.
From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Web Page navigation
Gene and Brian,
I have been keeping out of this discussion but watching each of your contributions with interest. I feel I must now correct you Gene. Here is the top half of the web page that results from the URL presented by William in his request for help:
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First, what follows here first is a general observation, but one triggered by this very thread. It is unbelievably frustrating, and probably from both sides, when one person participates virtually entirely by e-mail while another virtually entirely by the web interface to groups.io. Using the web interface allows you to see the entire thread on a single page and to go back and forth between original material and what you're posting. That's how I can tell you definitively, and will repost the original message below, that Facebook is and was not in any way involved other than by being mentioned by a later poster. It's also interesting how many, and you are not one of those, who either subscribe by individual message or digest are not reading what has already been posted before posting themselves in many cases. Getting the same answer(s) hours, not minutes, apart clearly indicates that the posters of the repeat material have not bothered to take note that what they've offered has already been offered, and often more than once. This makes for a really crappy online archive and a great deal more difficulty in searching the online archive and getting a more focused pool of results.
The original post was:
I find it difficult move around in a web page and get NVDA to speak continually on any given item.
The following is the URL http://t.digitalnewspaper.co.za/nl/jsp/m.jsp?c=%40fjNSuVTurK7VzhMSOxyzIucXl%2BKsnii1IrXYxuvhTwY%3D
Witch is one of the pages I would like to navigate.
Would it be possible for some kind member to list the short-cut keys necessary to enable me to do this.
I have gone to said webpage and perused it via NVDA. When it loads, if one hits NVDA Key+F7 there are only two links, "Report it" and "View Online" that appear in the elements list of links for this page (using Chrome or Firefox). When I tried using K at one point the navigation bar links came into play before the articles.
In any case, this is the last comment I'll make on this particular thread on this particular webpage. There is no one right way to approach this. Using the NVDA search command is fine as is using the NVDA Elements list. Knowing how to come at things from multiple angles is never a bad thing. Knowing that once you're on the actual article page that the Elements List with "Headers" selected can save you a bunch of jumping is a big time saver.
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