I actually dictated part of my research paper and submitted it. I had to as I speak the way I  write and it was much much easier to get my thoughts down if I spoke them. It actually came out quite well.

On Jun 1, 2018, at 2:27 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

A long time ago, when there were no personal computers, I tried dictating rough drafts of one or two college papers instead of writing the rough draft.  The quality of writing wasn't nearly as good so I wrote out the drafts and discarded what I had dictated.  I may not have dictated more than a page or two before I stopped.  When I listened to the results of my partial work, they were inferior.  I don't think it's just a question of slower work.  I think that when you write, you think differently in terms of your use of language.  

 

You see comercials promoting dictation software showing students using it.  But this is something that should be challenged by educators and a public discussion should be had on the subject.  In my opinion, such software, advertised as a replacement for typing may be deceptive and should be challenged so we can find out.

 

Gene

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Afternoon, or at least here it is.
Long time in the past, I did graduate study work on the writing process and computers. Any speech recognition work that was being done then was at Bell Labs or MIT, so there was no consideration of it as a writing tool. What I do know is that the process for experienced  writers when composing is far different than the processes we use when speaking. Keyboards or even handwriting provide humans the time to switch between long and short term memory and the time needed to use the mediating steps we use writing. Maybe that is why some folks get in trouble when they speak with no mediation, no comments about just who that might be. I fear Tweeting is more like talking than writing, lots more chance to write what you didn't quite mean. 

As to brain implants, I hate the fact that forces out there are tracking every web site I visit and everything I purchase. I am not ready for Google or Amazon to be poking about in my brain. Just speaking for me, I think I could get in a great deal of trouble that way. Just saying, not thinking.
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Actually, I was thinking the other day, that it won't be long before we have brain implants and everyone will be doing twitter and Face Book via thought.
We'll definitely need self-driving cars then.
Glenn


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No we will eventually get a brain implant to communicate instead.

Brian

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I can see voice activation taking off in a home setting but not in an office 
or public setting. Keyboards will be around forever.
Janet

From: Sky Mundell
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 10:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] The future of NVDA

Hello NVDA community. It’s Sky. I wanted to ask you guys a question.  Will 
NVDA be incorporating voice commands in into the screen reader? Because a 
friend of mine has told me that in three years everything is going to be 
voice activated. Yes we have dictation bridge for Voice activation, but what 
my friend means is that in three years, the computers, etc. will all be done 
via Voice activation without a keyboard. Here is what he has to say.

From: bj colt [mailto:bjcolt@...]
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 8:12 AM
To: Sky Mundell
Subject: Re: CSUN



Hi Sky,



I just received an email from my local supermarket. I do an on line shop 
there every week. From today I can order it via Alexa, Google home and other 
apps using voice only ordering.



I did say this is the way forward. With Amazon and Google competing, this 
voice activation is going to be the next huge thing in computing. I've said 
this for a while as you know. The next step is using actual programs/apps 
via voice activation. Just watch my friend. VFO is finished, on the way out. 
They won't be able to compete in an open market. Not as huge as this one. 
Just imagine my friend. At the moment I have my favorites in a shopping 
list. Think about the key strokes I need to use to get to them? Then 
additional items. I have to do a search of often up to 40 products with a 
similar name. arrowing down, tabbing down. Then adding them to my shopping 
basket. Going through the dates for delivery and times. Then all the key 
strokes in using my card details authorization process. All done with our 
voice. At least quarter of the time normally spent shopping. This does spell 
the end of VFO.



Everything is going to be voice activated in the next 3 years. There isn't 
any other way for web developers to go.



Progress sometimes my friend is slow but when it starts, it is like a high 
speed jet aircraft. Nothing stands in it's way.



There will be some people who won't change. Or use both methods to carry out 
tasks. Now VFO have to utilize jws to act on voice commands. With Dug in 
Microsoft. I can see VFO being left thousands of miles behind. Then when 
they introduce pay monthly fees. The very fast extinction of jws and other 
products will come to a very sudden and dramatic halt. They may think they 
have the market share for programs relating of the blind. They don't any 
more and they are the ones who are blind and not us.



Live long and prosper, John