Gene I think you make some very cogent points here. there is definitely
in my view a difference between written and oral language usage. Similarly I
notice that language for me often becomes more polished when I’m in a heavier
book reading phase too. It makes me appreciate the precious commodity and
beauty that words themselves possess and convey. such a study done thoroughly
in an academic setting could indeed be very interesting. Again for those who
have dexterity issues I understand the advantage dictation can offer but I
hope it never becomes the ultimate be al and end all as such.
Take good care.
A long time ago, when there were no personal
computers, I tried dictating rough drafts of one or two college papers instead
of writing the rough draft. The quality of writing wasn't nearly as good
so I wrote out the drafts and discarded what I had dictated. I may not
have dictated more than a page or two before I stopped. When I listened
to the results of my partial work, they were inferior. I don't think
it's just a question of slower work. I think that when you write, you
think differently in terms of your use of language.
You see comercials promoting dictation software
showing students using it. But this is something that should be
challenged by educators and a public discussion should be had on the
subject. In my opinion, such software, advertised as a replacement for
typing may be deceptive and should be challenged so we can find
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Sent: Friday, June 01, 2018 2:29 PM
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Afternoon, or at least here it is.
Long time in the past,
I did graduate study work on the writing process and computers. Any speech
recognition work that was being done then was at Bell Labs or MIT, so there
was no consideration of it as a writing tool. What I do know is that the
process for experienced writers when composing is far different than the
processes we use when speaking. Keyboards or even handwriting provide humans
the time to switch between long and short term memory and the time needed to
use the mediating steps we use writing. Maybe that is why some folks get in
trouble when they speak with no mediation, no comments about just who that
might be. I fear Tweeting is more like talking than writing, lots more chance
to write what you didn't quite mean.
As to brain implants, I hate the
fact that forces out there are tracking every web site I visit and everything
I purchase. I am not ready for Google or Amazon to be poking about in my
brain. Just speaking for me, I think I could get in a great deal of trouble
that way. Just saying, not thinking.
Dr. Rick Ely
451 Rocky Hill Road
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Actually, I was thinking the other day, that it won't be
long before we have brain implants and everyone will be doing twitter and Face
Book via thought.
We'll definitely need self-driving cars
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No we will eventually get a brain implant to
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From: "Janet Brandly"
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2018 4:53
Subject: [nvda] Voice Activation, was The future of NVDA
can see voice activation taking off in a home setting but not in an office
or public setting. Keyboards will be around forever.
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 10:40 PM
Subject: [nvda] The future of NVDA
NVDA community. It’s Sky. I wanted to ask you guys a question. Will
NVDA be incorporating voice commands in into the screen reader? Because a
friend of mine has told me that in three years everything is going to be
voice activated. Yes we have dictation bridge for Voice activation, but
my friend means is that in three years, the computers, etc. will all
via Voice activation without a keyboard. Here is what he has to
From: bj colt [mailto:bjcolt@...
Thursday, May 31, 2018 8:12 AM
To: Sky Mundell
I just received an email from my
local supermarket. I do an on line shop
there every week. From today I can
order it via Alexa, Google home and other
apps using voice only
I did say this is the way forward. With Amazon and
Google competing, this
voice activation is going to be the next huge thing
in computing. I've said
this for a while as you know. The next step is
using actual programs/apps
via voice activation. Just watch my friend. VFO
is finished, on the way out.
They won't be able to compete in an open
market. Not as huge as this one.
Just imagine my friend. At the moment I
have my favorites in a shopping
list. Think about the key strokes I need
to use to get to them? Then
additional items. I have to do a search of
often up to 40 products with a
similar name. arrowing down, tabbing down.
Then adding them to my shopping
basket. Going through the dates for
delivery and times. Then all the key
strokes in using my card details
authorization process. All done with our
voice. At least quarter of the
time normally spent shopping. This does spell
the end of
Everything is going to be voice activated in the next 3
years. There isn't
any other way for web developers to
Progress sometimes my friend is slow but when it starts, it
is like a high
speed jet aircraft. Nothing stands in it's
There will be some people who won't change. Or use both
methods to carry out
tasks. Now VFO have to utilize jws to act on voice
commands. With Dug in
Microsoft. I can see VFO being left thousands of
miles behind. Then when
they introduce pay monthly fees. The very fast
extinction of jws and other
products will come to a very sudden and
dramatic halt. They may think they
have the market share for programs
relating of the blind. They don't any
more and they are the ones who are
blind and not us.
Live long and prosper,