Re: accessible money


With the continued and increasing vulnerability of essential services in societies to disruption by hackers, private or national, it is the height of foolhardiness to rush headlong into more reliance on computerizing things to the extent you are describing.  If I had my way, I would not allow any more computerization of essential services until effective and credible protections are known to be in place. 
Mostly eliminating actual money in this environment is dangerous and foolish and so typical of our suicidal societies.

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Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2018 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money

Sweden has become largely cash-free during the past few years (ironically
enough, partly encouraged by a redesign of the banknotes, which instead of
accepting the change, people to a large extent simply stopped using them

There are many shops, restaurants and bars with signs saying "no cash" or "we
do not take cash" - they only take payment by card.


On Saturday 09 June 2018 at 14:02:37, Ron Canazzi wrote:

> Well, we wouldn't have to learn any more than 5 more coins.  They could
> be differently shaped for ease of accessibility.  As far as the
> jingling, to be honest, less and less people use real money any more.
> So this may become a moot point anyway.  For example, we are getting a
> group of Starbucks's restaurants locally in the Buffalo, New York area
> that will accept nothing but credit or debit cards. So I wonder how long
> there will actually be any so called legal tender any more anyway.
> On 6/8/2018 11:03 PM, Gene wrote:
> > It isn't reasonable to ask that switching to coins be done.
> > I'll use American denominations in examples since I don't know your
> > denominations.  Who is going to be willing to carry nothing but
> > coins?  If I pay for something with a ten dollar coin, I'm not going
> > to want to get four coins for dollars and two quarters, a dime and a
> > nickel back.  If I pay for something with a ten dollar coin and I'm
> > owed eight dollars and twenty cents, I am not going to want to receive
> > a five dollar coin, three one dollar coins and two dimes.  People
> > aren't going to walk around with lots of heavy coins jingling in their
> > pockets and wearing out the material in their clothes.
> > and think of all the different coins you would have to learn.  The
> > penny, nickel, dime, quarter, dollar, five dollar, ten, twenty, fifty,
> > assuming you never have a higher denomination.
> > Gene
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* Ron Canazzi <mailto:aa2vm@...>
> > *Sent:* Friday, June 08, 2018 8:05 PM
> > *To:* <>
> > *Subject:* Re: [nvda] accessible money
> >
> > Hi Kerryn,
> >
> >
> > If you can convince the powers that be in Trinidad to switch to all
> > coinage rather than paper money, that would be the ideal thing to do.
> > Most blind people here in the United States have no difficulty with
> > coinage.  The pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters are all differently
> > rimmed and of different sizes and weights.  In the United States, we
> > like our paper money.  There was great resistance to any change for
> > large denominations than quarters.  However in a smaller country like
> > Trinidad, you might have less resistance.  Good luck.
> >
> > On 6/8/2018 8:29 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:
> >> hi
> >> we in trinidad would like to make our money accessible to our blind
> >> or visually  impaired persons
> >> what guidelines we should work with as to approach the powers that
> >> be, in our meeting on tuesday 12th june, in having this done, in
> >> terms of technology, tack tile immages etc
> >> thanks

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