Yeah, I know. In this day and age in the US as we all know, there is no hostility toward blind people or disabled people in the US; and if there is it's all fake news created by a bunch of whinny unpatriotic liberals who all oughtta be fired!



On 6/10/2018 1:58 AM, Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:

What is unreasonable is making silly statements like:
Gene <gsasner@...>
wrote, in part:
Even if you win, the public resentment and ridicule will create
enormous ill will toward the recipients and set the whole cause of acceptance and integration back significantly.
Gene

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On Sat, 6/9/18, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Saturday, June 9, 2018, 8:07 PM
It doesn't insult
anyone. Coins are not used
in the ways paper money are for a reason. If blind
people demand the
elimination of bills, they won't be taken
seriously. Accessibility doesn't
mean imposing unreasonable practices on the rest of
society. and replacing
bills with coins is unreasonable.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Laurie
Mehta via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2018 9:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible
money
Gene <gsasner@...>
wrote, in
part:
Even if you win, the public resentment and ridicule will
create
enormous ill will toward the recipients and set the whole
cause of acceptance
and integration back significantly.
Gene
---My response:
I think that
this sort of reasoning insults the intelligence of almost
everyone, and it does
not make sense either.
I am not worried about ill will being spread on
account of me wanting to be sure of what money I am
exchanging with a business.
Canadian money and Indian money are reasonably accessible,
for just two
examples I've used. There is no reason for US money to
lag in this
respect.
-LM
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On Sat,
6/9/18, Gene <gsasner@...>
wrote:
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date:
Saturday, June 9, 2018, 1:40 PM
But using that
argument,
making money accessible
when it may not be around
much longer can be argued to be
spending a good deal
of money
to correct a problem that may not exist so it
shouldn't be done.
After all, it would be hard to justify making a
building
wheelchair accessible
if that building were likely
to be torn down in two years
and it wasn't
providing an
essential service.
Paper money is so much
more
convenient than coins,
that that is why it was adopted
in the first place.
Accessibility is a
worthy goal, but
if accessibility is done at the expense of
what is generally a
much better system of doing something for people in
general,
it's a pyric
victory. Even if you win, the
public resentment and
ridicule will create
enormous ill will
toward the recipients and set the whole
cause of acceptance
and integration back
significantly.
Gene
----- Original
Message
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From: Ron
Canazzi
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2018 7:02 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject:
Re: [nvda] accessible
money
Well, we
wouldn't have to learn any more than 5 more
coins. They could
be differently shaped for ease of accessibility.
As far
as
the jingling,
to be honest, less and less people use real
money any
more. So this may
become a moot point
anyway. For example, we are getting a
group of
Starbucks's restaurants locally in the Buffalo,
New York
area
that will accept
nothing but credit or debit cards. So I wonder how
long
there will actually be
any so called legal tender any
more anyway.
On 6/8/2018
11:03
PM, Gene wrote:
It
isn't
reasonable to ask that switching to coins be
done.
I'll use American denominations in
examples since
I don't know your
denominations.
Who is going to be willing to carry
nothing but
coins? If I pay for something with a ten dollar coin,
I'm not
going to
want to get four coins for dollars and two
quarters,
a
dime and a nickel
back. If I pay for something
with a ten dollar coin and
I'm owed eight
dollars and
twenty cents, I am not going to want to
receive a five dollar
coin, three one dollar coins and two
dimes.
People
aren't going to walk
around with lots of heavy
coins jingling in their pockets
and wearing out the
material in their clothes.
and
think of all the different coins you would have
to learn. The
penny, nickel, dime, quarter, dollar, five
dollar,
ten,
twenty, fifty,
assuming you never have a higher
denomination.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron
Canazzi
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible
money
Hi Kerryn,
If you can convince the powers that be in Trinidad to
switch to all
coinage
rather than paper money, that would be the
ideal thing
to
do. Most blind
people here in the United
States have no difficulty with
coinage. The
pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters are all differently
rimmed and of
different sizes and weights. In the
United States,
we
like our paper
money. There was great
resistance to any change for
large denominations
than
quarters. However in a smaller country like
Trinidad, you might
have less resistance. Good luck.
On 6/8/2018 8:29
PM, Kerryn
Gunness via Groups.Io
wrote:
hi
we in trinidad would like to make
our
money
accessible to our blind or
visually impaired persons
what guidelines we
should work with as to approach
the powers that be,
in our meeting on tuesday 12th
june, in having
this
done, in terms of
technology, tack
tile immages etc
thanks
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