Well for a while I used nero 5 that came with an old cd drive. Then I used nero 6 but didn't like the locked express version so cracked that. For a while I didn't upgrade, however after I got goldwave for cd extraction and cd burner xp for dvd/blueray/audio cd and data cd creation it solved my issues fully.
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On 17/05/2016 7:54 p.m., Brian's Mail list account wrote: I have a true call device and its files are stored on an sd card. A lot of the ways to operate this software do not seem to have keyboard shortcuts, and drag and drop is used here to do what in explorer we would simply use copy for. Quite why software companies feel the need toreinvent the wheel has always eluded me.
Another program from the past that had touse drag and drop was a version of Nero, but I stopped using it when I found some much more intuitive burners. Brian
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Technically, I'm not sure why, but drag and drop are difficult for blind people to work with. I have had to use drag and drop very rarely but fortunately, there are usually other ways to accomplish tasks and, I have seldom seen programs that require its use. I have seen some web sites where something you want to do can't be done without drag and drop. It appears to me that you can't do drag and drop while in browse mode or the equivalent for JAWS, the Virtual PC cursor. You might be able to do it when browse mode is off but that would depend on various factors and I wouldn't count on it on a lot of pages.
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From: Arianna Sepulveda Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 4:16 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Sighted instructins, was Fly Outsn?
Brian, now you have me curious. When are drag-and-drop operations typically used? I'm planning on learning those commands for NVDA, but would like to know when sited people typically use them. Well, not the NVDA commands, ohbviously, but doing it with the mouse, so that I can perform their keyboard equivalents. I also have JAWS, and plan to learn the drag-and-drop keyboard equivalents for that screen reader, as well.
Thanks, Ari
On May 16, 2016, at 9:22 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
We can all find instances of instructions that are completely unsuited to a blind or visually-impaired computer user and I understand the concerns there. The fact is, though, for at least 90% plus of the kinds of questions I'm routinely seeing on these forums I can find the answer with a quick web search and the instructions presented are step-by-step of the open this dialog, click on this option, check the checkbox, hit OK type. That's what I'm talking about.
I hope that people have noticed that I try my darndest to give "screen reader terminology focused" instructions when writing for this audience. At the same time I will continue to make the point that for instructions that don't use an untranslatable visual component like, "Click on the purple icon," but instead say something like, "Click on the Adobe Reader icon," you really should be able to directly translate this to, "Find, select, and activate the Adobe Reader Icon." Like so many things, what may be involved in "Find, select, and activate" can vary wildly depending on how a given user has his or her environment configured.
Also, just to semi-defend the sighted tech support person who asks, even after having been told you can't see, "Can you see the blue screen to your right?," it's very easy to literally forget what you've been told when you've been working with someone over the phone for a while and the entire "script" you're used to using has been working, and generally it will. It's not any sort of malice and, very often, it comes about as a direct result of the proficiency of the individual asking for support such that the tech literally forgets during the course of the interaction that they're dealing with someone who can't see.
It makes perfect sense to remind someone, gently at first but with more force as they persist in giving instructions that you can't use after they've been told, that you can't see and that they need to adjust the instructions accordingly. It's a real challenge at times, particularly for actions such as "drag and drop" that can be emulated via the keyboard but that most people, including screen reader users, have no idea how to do with the keyboard. This happens to be one of those things that I constantly forget because it can most frequently be worked around but, on very rare occasions, it can't and I have to figure out how it's done with the screen reader commands again.
It should come as no surprise, though, that some materials written for the Graphical User Interface environment will presume that the audience is actually using the graphical user interface. It's the same kind of "writing for your intended audience" that I think we all try to do as much as possible.
Brian --
Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts. ~ Henry Rosovsky
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