----- Original Message -----
From: "Sky Mundell" <skyt@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 6:44 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Scripting custom made software for a friend


Aww. That was because for the longest time, jfw had scripting. The former Window-Eyes had a great scripting model but it wasn't introduced until the former Window-Eyes 7 which came out in 2008, but by that time jfw had got the scripts and was at the top. I'm not sure what year Dolphin has had it. SA hasn't had a scripting feature partly because it is a product for home use, specificly targeted at seniors.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 10:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Scripting custom made software for a friend

Well maybe its changed now but about 10 years back or so, they
recognised jaws only and nothing else.

nvda is just about everywhere but still.

The big issue about making scripts for software x is that it could be in
house and someone would have to have access to whatever top secret or
whatever software it is to fix it.

Now what happens if there are only custom controls for everything we
can't access.

In theory nvda's guide, the fact it uses python etc means that someone
if they know what they are doing inside the company could write the
scripts for their program.

Technically if they never released them online then it wouldn't matter
if they did that or not.

I don't know what we could do about comercial programs free or
opensource well maybe.




On 6/22/2018 4:26 PM, Sky Mundell wrote:

Hello Shaun. They don't do that here in Canada. Maybe some government
agencies might be required to use JAWS in Canada, but Shaw does not. I work
at a training centre for the blind, and we don't have a contract for JAWS
and we don't have exclusive agreements with FS so we could use NVDA as well
as JAWS in our centre. There is an 80 percent unemployment rate in Canada.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun
Everiss
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 9:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Scripting custom made software for a friend

Hmmm.

I am not sure, any customisable things require jaws, its always been
this way.

I am surprised the place she works for doesn't just say you need jaws
thats what all the places I worked with did.

On a technical point in theory it should be good, but someone would need
to do inhouse stuff and well.

Saying that, if someone knew python and the addon writing stuff that was
in the company then they could do it, this is not jaws where everything
needs to be scripted for jaws.

We use publically released tools, languages, etc with our stuff its not
difficult if you know how.

At any rate, if you used just the nvda controler it couldn't be that
hard to expose controls.

Custom controls will always be a problem.

And to be honest, nvda's strong point is the newer web based
applications or basic windows controls.

I still have supernova/jaws for a few things with non standard controls
that need the extra power.

But some of those things can't see without scripts web based
applications in a fluent type of manner.

I am using thunderbird which is in fact a web based though locally
installed app,.




On 6/22/2018 3:31 PM, Sky Mundell wrote:

Hello list. I have a friend who works at Shaw, and she is using NVDA as

her

screen reader at work. However, she has ran into a software that they are
using that needs to be scripted, and she is asking if anybody out there

can

script NVDA. Has NV Access ever delbt with agencies that need custom
scripting solutions, and if so, how can we go about getting this custom

made

software scriptable with NVDA? Because I have listened to the NVDA

Keynote,

and Michael from NV Access has mentioned that Babbage uses and supports

NVDA

as their primary tool and he'd like to be able to expand it so that it has
local support in each country, including Canada. Thanks, Sky.