Re: accessibility training is important too.


May as well. Probly have a more intelligent conversation w/a robot.

On 6/24/18, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
A lot of the robots in tech support don't know much. Low level tech support
is a low pay, low status job and with the rise of artificial intelligence, I
think they may be one of the first such service jobs to be supplanted by
robots, since those who currently fill such positions largely perform as
robots now, as many of the messages in this thread demonstrate.

----- Original Message -----

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessibility training is important too.

Well I was talking to asus on trying to fix a busted extender, sir, read
the serial number on the side.

Um I am blind, is it anywhere else, no!


I have had techs not know their own internal control panel.

For my printer, please read the id and serial number from the control
panel, I can't see this, well you need to read from the configuration in
the control panel.

By this time I found it on the internal web server, is it this?

Yes, good thing I can access the web server then.

The guy goes, what server?

You'd think they didn't know their products sometimes.

On 6/25/2018 7:01 AM, JM Casey wrote:
Oh, the lights. Always the lights. Every time I talk to the ISP, it's
the first thing they ask: "Are all the lights on on the modem? Is it
blinking?" It's gotten hilarious by this point. Now whenever a call needs
be made to the ISP, I ask my girlfriend to do it. The problem with that
she hates talking to these people on the phone more than I do, and she

-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of brian
Sent: June 24, 2018 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessibility training is important too.

I have incountered this with both Att and Comcast. They are
who can't speak or undrstand englih well. I told them that I am blind so
can't tell you if their are lights on or what color they are. With att's
connect tech they would not even stay on the phone with me. I told them
that if you don't then you can't ask me anything as I could not read the
chat window. They even said that after I told them that I was blind that
I wanted to end the session that I should just click on the red x. How
they think that I will know whear the red x is if I can't see? Why is it
hard to understand what blind is. I guess I will have to just spell it
for them. I am totally blind that means that I can't see anything not
light or any shadows. If they can't comprehend that then they have no
business working in tech support.

Brian Sackrider

On 6/24/2018 5:30 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Yes indeed. I do find it almost ridiculous that, for example my
internet company have me flagged as blind, and generally help me with
things that they screw up, rather than un screwing them up, if that is
a word, but also continue to put me through to the people who cannot
function without knowing what a light is doing on a router, even
though I'm deep inside the control panel of said router and can read
them any parameter they wish to know about.
There should just be a one line addition to their script. If this
person is blind, push to level 2 or whatever its called. these people
do exist, but often the person at the start is unaware of what
blindness means or is just thick. I'm sorry but that is what I feel.
Rocket science it is not.

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Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 12:51 AM
Subject: [nvda] accessibility training is important too.

In this post, I detail an experience talking to Microsoft's
disability answer desk and talk about the importance of using
disability language when interacting with a disabled customer,
especially if you are operating disability support. Feel free to
share widely.


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