Claire Potter <claire.potter99@...>
hi Josiph, I did see that Brian Hartgen did do a tutorial about
using Station playlist, but like most things he does, they are to
do with Jaws, not NVDA, I don't think anyone else has done
anything to do with using Station playlist. I think what I really
need is some tech training from someone knowledgable who knows
about NVDA where I can be talked through exactly what to do and
how to record using either Goldwave or Audacity, yes, tutorials
are good to purchase but I think it is just as good to pay someone
and know you can ask questions there and then, after all, we all
have to start somewhere!
Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
On 10/07/2018 19:22, Joseph Lee wrote:
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Hi,
This can be done in Audacity,
GoldWave and other audio editors via “voiceover” and similar
effects. You would first record your voice, find out how
long your voice track is, load appropriate music, then mix
them via this effect (in GoldWave, voiceover effect will mix
in your voice track copied to the clipboard into your
music). Similarly, for fade out, you can specify when the
music should end and do either a crossfade, or let the music
fade out and mix in your voice track (I can tell you, having
done this work for ten years, it requires precise control in
timing, dynamics (volume changes) and what not in order to
achieve professional quality; my tutorial set (particularly
Windows 10 audio guides) are good examples of this).
The biggest advantage of this method
is that you can stay in just one program. The issue though
is having precise control over the final audio cut.
On the other hand, you can do the
same thing with StationPlaylist Studio with editing done via
another program. For benefit of those who may not know how
it can be done, here’s how:
- Load a bunch of tracks into
Studio’s playlist viewer (the main window), including the
background music.
- Set up a dummy encoder that’ll
record things to mp3 files.
- Configure the microphone in
Studio so music will fade (Studio Options page).
- Start the encoder.
- Switch to Studio’s playlist
viewer, move down through the music beds, then press Enter
to play each one.
- Speak to your microphone. Be sure
to do it whenever you need to speak – doing this with mic on
at all times may result in lower volume for the music bed.
- When you’re done, press S from
Studio to stop with fade.
- With the recording done, turn off
the dummy encoder.
The advantage of this approach is
that it’ll feel like you’re doing a live broadcast.
The problems with this approach are:
- You need to have an idea as to
which music beds to play (in other words, choose the
playlist items carefully).
- You need to have precise control
over when to turn on or off the microphone, as well as when
to fade the music bed.
- You need to set up a dummy
encoder for this purpose.
- The mp3 you’ll get is a rough
cut, so you need to edit it with another program.
As for file formats to use when
editing audio: as Sarah and others pointed out, it is best
to use an uncompressed (pure) audio format such as wave
(.wav) or FLAC (free lossless audio codec). I personally
edit my files in .wav format, and once everything is in
place, then I convert it into mp3 (lossy format) with
reasonable quality.
In case you haven’t, I highly
recommend talking to people such as Jonathan Mosen, Brian
Hartgen, David Woodbridge and many others who are professors
of audio editing from blindness perspective.
Cheers,
Joseph
Hi, what I want to do is have music attimes which ducks at times so I can talk over it and then the music fades out eventually, it would not get any more complex than that. Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
On 10/07/2018 17:22, Gene wrote:
My messages may have more information
than is helpful now. So disregard them if they are. Once
the discussion progresses further, I may have more
specific information about programs and editing as the
discussion progresses.
for now, I want to find out as
precisely as I can what you want to do, so I'll ask this
question.
Do you want to have music
simultaneously with your speech or just speech with
jingles at times in the program?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018
11:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using
Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA
Hi Gene, you have totally confused me now, I just want to
be able to remove bits of audio which do not need to be
there, and add in the jingles and music at the appropriate
times.
Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
On 10/07/2018 16:58, Gene wrote:
What is the next level? Are you
editing an mp3 file and then saving it again as an MP3
file? Every time you edit a file and then reencode it
while saving, you lose audio quality. Either do all
your editing in a lossless format such as wave, then
save the final file as MP3, or edit an existing mp3 file
using a program like MP3 Direct Cut, which edits
existing MP3 files and saves the edited file without
reencoding it. If you edit and save an MP3 file
reencoding it every time, after three or four saves, you
will start to hear significant audio degredation.
There may be other things you should
know as the discussion continues about how to decide if
you want to edit in a lossless format and save the
entire file as an MP3 as the last save or use a program
like MP3 Direct Cut.
For now, basics such as just what you
want to do would be the place to begin.
If you edit an MP3 file using a
program like MP3 Direct Cut, you may introduce
artifacts, depending on how the recording program
recorded it. You can use a recording program that
eliminates this problem. I'm saying that here so you
know you have that option.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 10,
2018 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using
Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA
Hi Joseph, I have used NVDA for about 6
months now, I would not by any means call myself an expert
yet but I am quite confident in using it, so it is just
Studio and editing programs that I am new to. My friend
did say that I can’t edit in Studio itself, so that is
maybe where something like Audacity or even Total recorder
would come in. I do have Total recorder and I really like
using that for simple editing tasks, so for example if I
have a file that is 30 minutes long but I wanted to select
a section to remove it is really simple to do that, that
is about as far as I currently go with editing, but I
would like to take it to the next level! Warm regards,
Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
On 10/07/2018 16:37, Joseph Lee wrote:
> Hi,
> Yes, you can use StationPlaylist Studio for
pre-recording shows (a bit involved), but you may need a
different program for editing the file afterwards.
> Just so we can help you better: are you a new NVDA
user, a new Studio user, or both? If both, then I suggest
learning NVDA first so you can get an idea as to how to
use the screen reader before using Studio. Once you become
comfortable with NVDA, then I suggest learning how to use
Studio so you can use its features efficiently.
> There is as NVDA add-on (similar to scripts for other
screen readers) that makes improvements to how NVDA
interacts with Studio, but that's getting way ahead of the
broadcast.
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Claire Potter
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 8:30 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the
latest version of NVDA
>
> Hi Joseph, it was a friend who used to use it a
little while ago, I can’t remember what exactly she said
but it was something like if it was used to produce
pre-recorded shows those are then saved as MP3 files which
I can edit as if they were podcasts, like I said though, I
am quite new to the whole world of audio editing and
production etc so I can’t quite remember what she said.
>
> Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new
website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
>
> On 10/07/2018 16:12, Joseph Lee wrote:
>> Hi Claire,
>> Welcome to NVDA list.
>> Sorry to say the following as a reply to your
first post, but do you have a source who told you
StationPlaylist Studio can be used for creating podcasts?
Studio is mostly meant for producing pre-recorded or live
shows on air, not necessarily used for podcast production
(for that, there are programs such as Audacity, GoldWave,
and many others).
>> I'll ask some folks I know who uses
StationPlaylist Studio regarding this possibility.
>> Cheers,
>> Joseph
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Claire
>> Potter
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:31 AM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the
latest version of NVDA
>>
>> Hi, I am new to this list and I hope someone can
help me. I would like
>> to learn how to use Station playlist as I am a
complete novice and I
>> would like to use Station playlist studio to
record my own podcasts, I
>> am however unable to find a clear tutorial which
explains how to do
>> this. I am using the latest version of NVDA. Can
you help? -- Warm
>> regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new
website:
>> http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
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