Sarah k Alawami
Start with learning the wave forms, the filters, the audio frequencies, the formulas. That’s where I started when I took classes about 14 years ago and they have helped.. Also learn about high and low pass filters, eq, queue etc. You can do all of this in a matter of weeks if you take the time to sit down and play with simple sound files and white noise which contains all frequencies from 20 hz to 20 k.. Also learn about digital to analog if you need to and more.
Hi Joseph, I think it is between Goldwave and Audacity now,
Soundforge is another one I am looking at as well, so I guess now
the question is where do I start so I can learn the basics of
audio editing in general with Nvda? Does NV Access have any
tutorials, or at least anyone else?
Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
On 10/07/2018 19:54, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi, Regarding GoldWave: I believe someone
did a series of tutorials on using it with NVDA a while
back. As for Studio with NVDA: I produced
one back in 2014, but as of now, it is very out of date (the
add-on back then versus what it is now is way different). I
asked several broadcasters if they’d like to do just that,
but to no avail. I suggest going through the following
sequence:
- Learn basics of audio editing,
such as concepts and skills you need for using any audio
editor. This is so that you can transfer the knowledge
between programs, as they provide similar functionality
across the board. You’ll learn things such as why dynamics
matter, timing, audio formats and what not.
- Evaluate several audio editors,
not just the ones suggested by folks on this forum.
- Once you find an editor you are
most comfortable with, learn how that audio editor works by
applying what you learned through a basics course.
- Optionally, if you have time or
are adventurous, learn the basics of other editors so you
can switch between them easily as the need arises.
Cheers, Joseph
hi Josiph, I did see that Brian Hartgen did do a tutorial
about using Station playlist, but like most things he does,
they are to do with Jaws, not NVDA, I don't think anyone else
has done anything to do with using Station playlist. I think
what I really need is some tech training from someone
knowledgable who knows about NVDA where I can be talked
through exactly what to do and how to record using either
Goldwave or Audacity, yes, tutorials are good to purchase but
I think it is just as good to pay someone and know you can ask
questions there and then, after all, we all have to start
somewhere!
Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
On 10/07/2018 19:22, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi, This can be done in Audacity, GoldWave
and other audio editors via “voiceover” and similar
effects. You would first record your voice, find out how
long your voice track is, load appropriate music, then mix
them via this effect (in GoldWave, voiceover effect will
mix in your voice track copied to the clipboard into your
music). Similarly, for fade out, you can specify when the
music should end and do either a crossfade, or let the
music fade out and mix in your voice track (I can tell
you, having done this work for ten years, it requires
precise control in timing, dynamics (volume changes) and
what not in order to achieve professional quality; my
tutorial set (particularly Windows 10 audio guides) are
good examples of this). The biggest advantage of this method is
that you can stay in just one program. The issue though is
having precise control over the final audio cut.
On the other hand, you can do the same
thing with StationPlaylist Studio with editing done via
another program. For benefit of those who may not know how
it can be done, here’s how:
- Load a bunch of tracks into
Studio’s playlist viewer (the main window), including
the background music.
- Set up a dummy encoder
that’ll record things to mp3 files.
- Configure the microphone in
Studio so music will fade (Studio Options page).
- Start the encoder.
- Switch to Studio’s playlist
viewer, move down through the music beds, then press
Enter to play each one.
- Speak to your microphone. Be
sure to do it whenever you need to speak – doing this
with mic on at all times may result in lower volume for
the music bed.
- When you’re done, press S
from Studio to stop with fade.
- With the recording done, turn
off the dummy encoder.
The advantage of this approach is that
it’ll feel like you’re doing a live broadcast. The problems with this approach are:
- You need to have an idea as
to which music beds to play (in other words, choose the
playlist items carefully).
- You need to have precise
control over when to turn on or off the microphone, as
well as when to fade the music bed.
- You need to set up a dummy
encoder for this purpose.
- The mp3 you’ll get is a rough
cut, so you need to edit it with another program.
As for file formats to use when editing
audio: as Sarah and others pointed out, it is best to use
an uncompressed (pure) audio format such as wave (.wav) or
FLAC (free lossless audio codec). I personally edit my
files in .wav format, and once everything is in place,
then I convert it into mp3 (lossy format) with reasonable
quality. In case you haven’t, I highly recommend
talking to people such as Jonathan Mosen, Brian Hartgen,
David Woodbridge and many others who are professors of
audio editing from blindness perspective. Cheers, Joseph
Hi, what I want to do is have music attimes which ducks at times so I can talk over it and then the music fades out eventually, it would not get any more complex than that. Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
On 10/07/2018 17:22, Gene wrote:
My messages may have more
information than is helpful now. So disregard them if
they are. Once the discussion progresses further, I
may have more specific information about programs and
editing as the discussion progresses.
for now, I want to find out as
precisely as I can what you want to do, so I'll ask
this question.
Do you want to have music
simultaneously with your speech or just speech with
jingles at times in the program?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 10,
2018 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda]
Using Station playlist with the latest version of
NVDA
Hi Gene, you have totally confused me now, I just want
to be able to remove bits of audio which do not need to
be there, and add in the jingles and music at the
appropriate times.
Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
On 10/07/2018 16:58, Gene wrote:
What is the next level? Are you
editing an mp3 file and then saving it again as an
MP3 file? Every time you edit a file and then
reencode it while saving, you lose audio quality.
Either do all your editing in a lossless format such
as wave, then save the final file as MP3, or edit an
existing mp3 file using a program like MP3 Direct
Cut, which edits existing MP3 files and saves the
edited file without reencoding it. If you edit and
save an MP3 file reencoding it every time, after
three or four saves, you will start to hear
significant audio degredation.
There may be other things you
should know as the discussion continues about how to
decide if you want to edit in a lossless format and
save the entire file as an MP3 as the last save or
use a program like MP3 Direct Cut.
For now, basics such as just what
you want to do would be the place to begin.
If you edit an MP3 file using a
program like MP3 Direct Cut, you may introduce
artifacts, depending on how the recording program
recorded it. You can use a recording program that
eliminates this problem. I'm saying that here so
you know you have that option.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July
10, 2018 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda]
Using Station playlist with the latest version
of NVDA
Hi Joseph, I have used NVDA for
about 6 months now, I would not by any means call
myself an expert yet but I am quite confident in using
it, so it is just Studio and editing programs that I
am new to. My friend did say that I can’t edit in
Studio itself, so that is maybe where something like
Audacity or even Total recorder would come in. I do
have Total recorder and I really like using that for
simple editing tasks, so for example if I have a file
that is 30 minutes long but I wanted to select a
section to remove it is really simple to do that, that
is about as far as I currently go with editing, but I
would like to take it to the next level! Warm
regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new
website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
On 10/07/2018 16:37, Joseph Lee wrote:
> Hi,
> Yes, you can use StationPlaylist Studio for
pre-recording shows (a bit involved), but you may need
a different program for editing the file afterwards.
> Just so we can help you better: are you a new
NVDA user, a new Studio user, or both? If both, then I
suggest learning NVDA first so you can get an idea as
to how to use the screen reader before using Studio.
Once you become comfortable with NVDA, then I suggest
learning how to use Studio so you can use its features
efficiently.
> There is as NVDA add-on (similar to scripts for
other screen readers) that makes improvements to how
NVDA interacts with Studio, but that's getting way
ahead of the broadcast.
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Claire Potter
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 8:30 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with
the latest version of NVDA
>
> Hi Joseph, it was a friend who used to use it a
little while ago, I can’t remember what exactly she
said but it was something like if it was used to
produce pre-recorded shows those are then saved as MP3
files which I can edit as if they were podcasts, like
I said though, I am quite new to the whole world of
audio editing and production etc so I can’t quite
remember what she said.
>
> Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand
new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
>
> On 10/07/2018 16:12, Joseph Lee wrote:
>> Hi Claire,
>> Welcome to NVDA list.
>> Sorry to say the following as a reply to your
first post, but do you have a source who told you
StationPlaylist Studio can be used for creating
podcasts? Studio is mostly meant for producing
pre-recorded or live shows on air, not necessarily
used for podcast production (for that, there are
programs such as Audacity, GoldWave, and many others).
>> I'll ask some folks I know who uses
StationPlaylist Studio regarding this possibility.
>> Cheers,
>> Joseph
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Claire
>> Potter
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:31 AM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: [nvda] Using Station playlist with
the latest version of NVDA
>>
>> Hi, I am new to this list and I hope someone
can help me. I would like
>> to learn how to use Station playlist as I am
a complete novice and I
>> would like to use Station playlist studio to
record my own podcasts, I
>> am however unable to find a clear tutorial
which explains how to do
>> this. I am using the latest version of NVDA.
Can you help? -- Warm
>> regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand
new website:
>> http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
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