Sarah k Alawami
You don’t need to know all of that but it helps, a lot especually if someone asks you if ou want to equ it to about 280 or so. Also if you know what things sound like you will know what to eq to if you need to do that. You don’t have to know 100 percent, but yeah I took the classes and it has helped in my audio production, a lot.
I couldn't have put it better myself, for me personally if I
don't understand something I avoid doing it until it is explained
well.
Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
On 10/07/2018 21:33, Gene wrote:
You don't need to know much technical information of the kind
discussed in the message quoted below mine. What you do need to
know is easily understood if explained well.
Gene
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with
the latest version of NVDA
Start with learning the wave forms, the filters, the audio
frequencies, the formulas. That’s where I started when I took
classes about 14 years ago and they have helped.. Also learn about
high and low pass filters, eq, queue etc. You can do all of this
in a matter of weeks if you take the time to sit down and play
with simple sound files and white noise which contains all
frequencies from 20 hz to 20 k.. Also learn about digital to
analog if you need to and more.
Hi Joseph, I think it is between Goldwave and Audacity
now, Soundforge is another one I am looking at as well,
so I guess now the question is where do I start so I can
learn the basics of audio editing in general with Nvda?
Does NV Access have any tutorials, or at least anyone
else?
Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
On 10/07/2018 19:54, Joseph
Lee wrote:
Hi, Regarding GoldWave: I
believe someone did a series of tutorials on using
it with NVDA a while back. As for Studio with NVDA: I
produced one back in 2014, but as of now, it is
very out of date (the add-on back then versus what
it is now is way different). I asked several
broadcasters if they’d like to do just that, but
to no avail. I suggest going through the
following sequence:
- Learn basics of audio
editing, such as concepts and skills you need for
using any audio editor. This is so that you can
transfer the knowledge between programs, as they
provide similar functionality across the board.
You’ll learn things such as why dynamics matter,
timing, audio formats and what not.
- Evaluate several audio
editors, not just the ones suggested by folks on
this forum.
- Once you find an editor
you are most comfortable with, learn how that
audio editor works by applying what you learned
through a basics course.
- Optionally, if you have
time or are adventurous, learn the basics of other
editors so you can switch between them easily as
the need arises.
Cheers, Joseph
hi Josiph, I did see that Brian Hartgen did do a
tutorial about using Station playlist, but like
most things he does, they are to do with Jaws, not
NVDA, I don't think anyone else has done anything to
do with using Station playlist. I think what I
really need is some tech training from someone
knowledgable who knows about NVDA where I can be
talked through exactly what to do and how to record
using either Goldwave or Audacity, yes, tutorials
are good to purchase but I think it is just as good
to pay someone and know you can ask questions there
and then, after all, we all have to start somewhere!
Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
On 10/07/2018 19:22, Joseph Lee
wrote:
Hi, This can be done in Audacity,
GoldWave and other audio editors via “voiceover”
and similar effects. You would first record your
voice, find out how long your voice track is,
load appropriate music, then mix them via this
effect (in GoldWave, voiceover effect will mix
in your voice track copied to the clipboard into
your music). Similarly, for fade out, you can
specify when the music should end and do either
a crossfade, or let the music fade out and mix
in your voice track (I can tell you, having done
this work for ten years, it requires precise
control in timing, dynamics (volume changes) and
what not in order to achieve professional
quality; my tutorial set (particularly Windows
10 audio guides) are good examples of this). The biggest advantage of this
method is that you can stay in just one program.
The issue though is having precise control over
the final audio cut.
On the other hand, you can do
the same thing with StationPlaylist Studio with
editing done via another program. For benefit of
those who may not know how it can be done,
here’s how:
- Load a bunch of
tracks into Studio’s playlist viewer (the main
window), including the background music.
- Set up a dummy
encoder that’ll record things to mp3 files.
- Configure the
microphone in Studio so music will fade
(Studio Options page).
- Start the encoder.
- Switch to Studio’s
playlist viewer, move down through the music
beds, then press Enter to play each one.
- Speak to your
microphone. Be sure to do it whenever you need
to speak – doing this with mic on at all times
may result in lower volume for the music bed.
- When you’re done,
press S from Studio to stop with fade.
- With the recording
done, turn off the dummy encoder.
The advantage of this
approach is that it’ll feel like you’re doing a
live broadcast. The problems with this
approach are:
- You need to have an
idea as to which music beds to play (in other
words, choose the playlist items carefully).
- You need to have
precise control over when to turn on or off
the microphone, as well as when to fade the
music bed.
- You need to set up
a dummy encoder for this purpose.
- The mp3 you’ll get
is a rough cut, so you need to edit it with
another program.
As for file formats to use
when editing audio: as Sarah and others pointed
out, it is best to use an uncompressed (pure)
audio format such as wave (.wav) or FLAC (free
lossless audio codec). I personally edit my
files in .wav format, and once everything is in
place, then I convert it into mp3 (lossy format)
with reasonable quality. In case you haven’t, I highly
recommend talking to people such as Jonathan
Mosen, Brian Hartgen, David Woodbridge and many
others who are professors of audio editing from
blindness perspective. Cheers, Joseph
Hi, what I want to do is have music attimes which ducks at times so I can talk over it and then the music fades out eventually, it would not get any more complex than that. Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
On 10/07/2018 17:22, Gene
wrote:
My messages may have more
information than is helpful now. So
disregard them if they are. Once the
discussion progresses further, I may have
more specific information about programs and
editing as the discussion progresses.
for now, I want to find
out as precisely as I can what you want to
do, so I'll ask this question.
Do you want to have music
simultaneously with your speech or just
speech with jingles at times in the program?
----- Original Message
-----
Sent: Tuesday,
July 10, 2018 11:03 AM
Subject: Re:
[nvda] Using Station playlist with the
latest version of NVDA
Hi Gene, you have totally confused me now, I
just want to be able to remove bits of audio
which do not need to be there, and add in the
jingles and music at the appropriate times.
Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
On 10/07/2018 16:58, Gene
wrote:
What is the next
level? Are you editing an mp3 file and
then saving it again as an MP3 file?
Every time you edit a file and then
reencode it while saving, you lose audio
quality. Either do all your editing in a
lossless format such as wave, then save
the final file as MP3, or edit an existing
mp3 file using a program like MP3 Direct
Cut, which edits existing MP3 files and
saves the edited file without reencoding
it. If you edit and save an MP3 file
reencoding it every time, after three or
four saves, you will start to hear
significant audio degredation.
There may be other
things you should know as the discussion
continues about how to decide if you want
to edit in a lossless format and save the
entire file as an MP3 as the last save or
use a program like MP3 Direct Cut.
For now, basics such as
just what you want to do would be the
place to begin.
If you edit an MP3 file
using a program like MP3 Direct Cut, you
may introduce artifacts, depending on how
the recording program recorded it. You
can use a recording program that
eliminates this problem. I'm saying that
here so you know you have that option.
----- Original
Message -----
Sent:
Tuesday, July 10, 2018 10:45 AM
Subject: Re:
[nvda] Using Station playlist with the
latest version of NVDA
Hi Joseph, I have used
NVDA for about 6 months now, I would not by
any means call myself an expert yet but I am
quite confident in using it, so it is just
Studio and editing programs that I am new
to. My friend did say that I can’t edit in
Studio itself, so that is maybe where
something like Audacity or even Total
recorder would come in. I do have Total
recorder and I really like using that for
simple editing tasks, so for example if I
have a file that is 30 minutes long but I
wanted to select a section to remove it is
really simple to do that, that is about as
far as I currently go with editing, but I
would like to take it to the next level!
Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my
brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
On 10/07/2018 16:37, Joseph Lee wrote:
> Hi,
> Yes, you can use StationPlaylist Studio
for pre-recording shows (a bit involved),
but you may need a different program for
editing the file afterwards.
> Just so we can help you better: are you
a new NVDA user, a new Studio user, or both?
If both, then I suggest learning NVDA first
so you can get an idea as to how to use the
screen reader before using Studio. Once you
become comfortable with NVDA, then I suggest
learning how to use Studio so you can use
its features efficiently.
> There is as NVDA add-on (similar to
scripts for other screen readers) that makes
improvements to how NVDA interacts with
Studio, but that's getting way ahead of the
broadcast.
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
<nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Claire Potter
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 8:30 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station
playlist with the latest version of NVDA
>
> Hi Joseph, it was a friend who used to
use it a little while ago, I can’t remember
what exactly she said but it was something
like if it was used to produce pre-recorded
shows those are then saved as MP3 files
which I can edit as if they were podcasts,
like I said though, I am quite new to the
whole world of audio editing and production
etc so I can’t quite remember what she said.
>
> Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out
my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
>
> On 10/07/2018 16:12, Joseph Lee wrote:
>> Hi Claire,
>> Welcome to NVDA list.
>> Sorry to say the following as a
reply to your first post, but do you have a
source who told you StationPlaylist Studio
can be used for creating podcasts? Studio is
mostly meant for producing pre-recorded or
live shows on air, not necessarily used for
podcast production (for that, there are
programs such as Audacity, GoldWave, and
many others).
>> I'll ask some folks I know who uses
StationPlaylist Studio regarding this
possibility.
>> Cheers,
>> Joseph
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
<nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Claire
>> Potter
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:31
AM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: [nvda] Using Station
playlist with the latest version of NVDA
>>
>> Hi, I am new to this list and I
hope someone can help me. I would like
>> to learn how to use Station
playlist as I am a complete novice and I
>> would like to use Station playlist
studio to record my own podcasts, I
>> am however unable to find a clear
tutorial which explains how to do
>> this. I am using the latest version
of NVDA. Can you help? -- Warm
>> regards, Claire Potter, Check out
my brand new website:
>> http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
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