Re: I think Avast is a virus :-)


Perhaps that's because XP doesn't have some of the security
capabilities of Windows 7, 8, & 10. Seems as though it would've been
unsupported at the time you uninstalled it, in fact.

On 7/13/18, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I'm not sure how accessible Avast is now. It was useable a number of years
ago but in the last few years, accessibility may have declined to the point
where it may not be useable enough. You can still download a version that
is a number of years old and use it and I think it is adequate. I think
most changes in the last few years have been cosmetic, layout and additional
feature changes But even about four years ago, it was annoying in many

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From: bob jutzi
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I think Avast is a virus :-)

Exactly my impressions of Avast and that's been 10 years ago.
From what I'm reading on here, things haven't exactly improved. The
only thing worse is McAfee.
The Dell Inspiron desktop I purchased last year came with McAfee and I
had no recourse but to first download all drivers, then completely
install Windows 10 from scratch.

On 7/13/2018 7:43 PM, Jackie wrote:
I frankly have seldom, if ever, seen an antimalware program that has
real-time protection enabled be uninstalled using the Control Panel
w/o first stopping services. Sometimes you can go down to the systray
(Windows Key b), right click on the icon, & select exit from the
context menu. The program can then be uninstalled that way, ie, via
Control Panel. It all rather depends on the particular piece of
software, but these are techniques that can be of assistance.

On 7/13/18, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
not necessarily. When I've uninstalled antimalware programs in the
and read information from the manufacturer about how to do so, the ones
have uninstalled have said to do so from Programs and Features first and
that didn't work, to use something else like an uninstall tool.

You can't just turn off services antivirus programs use in many cases
because these services are monitored by the program's self-defence
That module is intended to keep malware from doing just that, turning
the program so the malware can damage the program and infiltrate the
once the program is off.

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From: Jackie
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I think Avast is a virus :-)

In order to uninstall any antivirus software, you first have to stop
the service(s) that it uses. Please go to Control Panel >
Administrative Tools > Services & set any & all services associated
w/the software to disabled. Then stop the service.

On 7/13/18, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I didn't say it wouldn't install Avast when you install CCleaner. But
original message said that CCleaner is periodically reinstalled after
uninstalled and it didn't say this only happened when a new version of
CCleaner was installed.

If that happened as a general behavior, it would have caused tremendous
outcry from those, sighted and blind, using CCleaner who had mistakenly
installed Avast and then removed it. Where is that outcry?
Also, given the difficulty and inaccessibility of many decline parts of
software, I suspect that you thought you had declined it, but didn't.

Companies try to sneak software onto machines but the company that owns
Avast and CCleaner wouldn't damage its reputation by doing something
blatantly illegal such as having Avast installed even when a user
specifically declined the offer. The company has a very good
and, if for no other reason, that's worth a lot of money.

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From: Desiree Oudinot
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I think Avast is a virus :-)


I very rarely post on this list, but this message warrants a response.

I, too, have had CCleaner install Avast even when I've declined the
during installation. Once it's launched, it seems to do something in
background to install it. As a result, I began using the portable
CCleaner to avoid this problem.

I believe this is unacceptable, but until now, had also never seen
discussing the issue, so I figured I had done something to trigger it.
perhaps not.

On 7/13/2018 4:35 PM, Gene wrote:

Then why has no other CCleaner user reported the problem not just on
list, but on the other two active Windows users lists I'm on? It
seem plausible.

How have you tried to remove Avast in the past? And if you really
its CCleaner, why not completely remove CCleaner and see what happens?

But rather than do that, doing what I suggest below may yield the
result without doing unnecessary and likely ineffective work.

I don't know how you might stop it. the question may well be too
and essoteric for the list. Why not ask somewhere like Bleeping
where geeks hang out to help with technical questions that range from
to obscure.

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From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 3:28 PM
Subject: [nvda] I think Avast is a virus :-)

I'm having terrible trouble stopping this anti virus once installed
removed from making frequent attempts to reinstall itself. I have a
suspicion that Ccleaner is responsible for apparent random downloads
background without any input from a user. It then sits there and out
blue comes up as installing.

Does anyone know of a third party program that can spot this and

stop it. maybe an entry in Microsofts windows 7 firewall or
Unfortunately, the machine in question is a device used by both
blind, and its only when I get there and find this inaccessible over
impossible to remove bit of so called anti virus software that I

annoyed. I want to make it absolutely impossible to install it.
Any ideas?

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