Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
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You guys never scease on this list to amaze me! Enough said.
On 07/16/2018 02:20 PM, Gene wrote:
I'm not taking a position on when
and whether it is ever justifiable to use illegal software.
This is a different question than protection of the list.
Therefore, I have only addressed the question from a list
standpoint and not addressed any of my personal opinions about
the broader ethical question.
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Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Admin. Important. On promoting
No I fully understand the list position.
The issue is theft.
However when it comes to software, it is
easy to convince one’s self that it doesn’t really hurt anyone
as they will never know. Sorry if this sounds pretentious ,
but I have been and friends have been on the opposite side of
this issue, and it can make a real difference for a developer
who puts in enormous time creating software and knowing that a
percent of copies are simply Pirated.
The question isn't
whether NVDA has adequate selection of synthesizers nor
whether it is free. The question is whether the list
should be exposed to legal liability by the promotion of
any kind of illegal software.
If someone promoted
illegal software to perform OCR, the same restriction
would apply or to an illegal word processing program.
Sent: Monday, July
16, 2018 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda]
Admin. Important. On promoting illegal software
Thanks for this post. I have been wondering
over the last few days what the position of the list owner
would be on supporting the illegal piracy of software. NVDA
comes free to those who cannot afford the cost of a screen
reader. NVDA has a more than adequate selection of
synthesizers as part of its install. Our visual conditions,
whatever they may be, do not include an exemption for theft.
Again thanks for your reminder,
I'm sending this as
an administrative message along with sending it in the
thread where this problem is currently occurring. I
have slightly expanded this message with another
I've stated before,
as much as two or three days ago, that promoting illegal
software is not, I emphatically repeat not, allowed on
list. This is not my policy. It is the policy of the
list owner and it is standard policy on a lot of lists.
Gratuitously mentioning and impliedly recommending
illegal software is not allowed.
If someone wants to
express a general opinion about when it is ethically
acceptable to use illegal software, as I understand list
policy, that is allowed. Promoting or discussing
specific programs is not.
I support this list
policy. It doesn't matter what my personal feelings are
about when and if it is justifiable to use illegal
software as an ethical question. As moderator, I am
responsible for enforcing list policy. The policy is in
place not because of the views of those who run the list
on the the question. It is in place because promoting
illegal software exposes the list to legal liability.
If people continue to disregard my warnings on this
subject, they will be moderated temporarily. I'm sorry
to have to send this kind of stern message. I moderate
with a lite toch whenever possible. But it's time for
such discussions and implied endorsements to stop.