Re: possible eloquence solution
JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
Good post. I agree with pretty much everything you've said.toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
Still holding out on purchasing Eloquence for NVDA for some reason. I recently switched back to Eloquence in my JAWS instalation, from the more "natural" voices, and my computer's performance has improved exponentially as a result. I'd almost forgotten how responsive and snappy this synth is. Unfortunately I'm still stuck with Core1 for NVDA for now. The eSpeak comment made me laugh because it seems so true. Not sure I'm one of those who can really get used to that. I was brought up with the Echo synthesizer for Apple in the 80s, which, unless you had it in "flat" mode, always sounded like it was singing, and eSpeak feels like a throwback to those days almost.
From: email@example.com <firstname.lastname@example.org> On Behalf Of Damien Garwood
Sent: July 17, 2018 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] possible eloquence solution
Eloquence? Open-sourced? Owned by Microsoft? You're joking aren't ya?
Seriously though. The sad and sorry fact is, Eloquence, like Keynote, is a very old synthesiser indeed. With that in mind, due to its age, and the possibility that they probably designed it for NASA spacecrafts (Well, the price tag would certainly suggest it), companies whose prices and DRM policies are stuck in the 1980's are highly unlikely to jump to the 21st century and say, "Well, nothing's happening, let's just open source it". They'd be more likely to say, "Over my dead body". All that hard work for nothing, eh?
As for Microsoft owning it? That's a double whammy.
Firstly, unfortunate though the game of life can sometimes be, we have no choice but to face facts. The majority of TTS voices are now leaning towards a more so-called "natural" feel. This includes Microsoft, who have attempted to make all their voices sound natural right from the
SAPI4 days. Sapi5 and OneCore are no exception. Personally, I think it makes it sound choppy, and lag like trash. So then, the only other option will be ESpeak which, while portable, responsive and open-source, as far as usability goes, sounds to me like a trip back to hardware synths of the 1960's.
Secondly, since Microsoft do a good job of butchering everything that they so much as walk near...No. The idea of Microsoft owning something as quality as Eloquence makes me feel sick. Several potential pages of Microsoft-directed rant suppressed, with great difficulty.
Put it this way. If I were any good at self-learning new systems, I would've switched to Windows 10 long ago. As it is, I'm still on 7. And there was me thinking that was too big a change when I was forced to upgrade from XP!
On 17/07/2018 01:10 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
It seems like unless this problem is solved it will keep coming up. So